Vecsey: Hakeem seeking $10 million per season from Houston

Well, it seems that to at least the majority of the posters in this thread, Peter Vecsey has more credibility than Hakeem. This is a Rockets board, right?

 

Well, it seems that to at least the majority of the posters in this thread, Peter Vecsey has more credibility than Hakeem.

How so? This might be true if Hakeem had said "this isn't true", but he hasn't said anything, so there's not two conflicting statements here.


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Because the majority of posters immediately assumed Vescey was telling the truth. That means they didn't care what Hakeem had to say on the matter, they believed Vescey without question. Seemed pretty simple to me.

 

I just wish hakeem had the kindness in him to take 1 mil like barkley did.. but I truly think hakeem is playing next year partly for the money.... we basically gave him 32 mil over the last two years for doing nothing.. too bad he won't repay us by playing cheap..

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BTW, isn't it too early to be dicussing contracts with free agents?

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The 32 million over the past two years was a reward for Hakeem doing EVERYTHING for this franchise for the past decade and a half.

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I'm not going on Vescey's credibility, remember, Dream did ask to be cut or traded. Why would this be any different? And no I'm not say bye-bye Dream, get out of here. But 10 million dollars is a lot of money. This is Vescey, but of course this is the same Dream that wanted an extension before being traded to Toronto, so you see where I'm coming from.

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Because the majority of posters immediately assumed Vescey was telling the truth. That means they didn't care what Hakeem had to say on the matter, they believed Vescey without question. Seemed pretty simple to me.

That doesn't mean that people think Vescey has more credibility than Hakeem -- just that he does have some credibility. If Hakeem says that Vescey is wrong, THEN you can use people's reactions to compare the Vescey vs. Hakeem's credibility.

Without any statement from Hakeem, people's reactions just give insight as to Vescey's credibility alone.

For example, if Shaq says he's slept with Cindy Crawford, people's reactions to that statement say nothing about Cindy Crawford's credibility. However, if she has responded, "no, that's not true", THEN people's responses show whether they think Shaq or Cindy is more credible. See?


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Actually.. I think the 32 million was more a matter of.. they didnt' realize he would be that bad when they signed him long term.. and had no way to get out of the 32 million they owed him lol.. And if the 32 mil was a reward for the last decade.. then what woudl the 10 mil be .. just be cash?

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If people were to say "Way to go Shaq!", then yes it does. It's the same here. And it doesn't have anything to do with Hakeem or Cindy's credibility. I'm talking about the reactions of the posters, not the credibility of the people in question. To people on THIS BOARD, Vescey has more credibility, just like Shaq would have more in the scenario I posted. That doesn't mean Hakeem and Cindy actually have less credibility. Geez, I can't believe I have to explain this to an Austin Rocketball alum.

 

IF this is true, then it makes me laugh. No way is Hakeem worth that much, and he should know that. That would be a slap in the face to the Rockets, saying Hakeem doesn't really want to be there. Do I believe it? I don't know, but at this point I wouldn't put it past Hakeem and Fegan to pull such a stunt.

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Unless Hakeem Olajuwon comes out and says he didn't make a contract demand of $10 million dollars and people still believe Vescey, then Vescey will have more credibility than Hakeem. Until then, there is no comparison of Vescey's and Hakeem's credibility going on.

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Look, if Vecsey was making this up, then I stand humbled.

Yes, Fegan is an agent and it is his job to be a moneygrubbing scumbag so that a player doesn't have to be. It's just that this sort of ploy fits his M.O. with the way he handled the Shandon negotiations with Utah: demand something you know the team won't pay. In that case, Shandon wanted out of Utah anyway. I was hoping Hakeem actually wanted to stay in Houston, like he claimed. Still hope it's true.

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$10 million? Very impressive. That would -- amazingly -- make Hakeem Olajuwon as overpaid as Kelvin Cato.

Yo, Dan Fegan. Stop floating your opening bids through Peter Vecsey. It's like showing up for your first day of work with a grease spot on your shirt.

 

That would make for the best three big man rotation in a while.

I can only think of the Celtics with Bird, McHale, and Parish that was better.

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If people were to say "Way to go Shaq!", then yes it does.

No it doesn't. If Cindy Crawford hasn't said anything, how can we be judging her credibility in any way?

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If Hakeem could still average 16-11 like he did the second half of the season, then his 10 million wouldn't be too far off his worth. 11-7, however, shouldn't require that much money. I don't think Hakeem is a moron, he knows he won't make 10 mil from any team. I am going to predict that he re-signs for the famous 4.5 million exception. Just watch, and stop the bashing before it starts.

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Now my take on the Dream issue.

His ego is going to take a shot in the foot when he asks them for 10 mil.

He is one of my favorite players ever. Obviously there are no Rocket's Banners hanging in Compaq Center without Dream, but he is far out of his prime. Personally, I want him to stay for another season, give him a farewell season, in which he actually contributes, but Webber is the first priority on my and probably the Rocket Organization's list.

I believe that this was Fegan talking, and not Dream. While Dream probably wants a good 5-7 million, I think even he knows he isn't worth $10 million at this point of his career.

Unfortunately, when we don't give him a contract he likes, he might bolt to the likes of(shudder)LA

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A question to all.

Was Dream not a major reason for our second half turn around?

Did he not contribute and help us win even when it didn't look like he could?

Who will be a nice replacement for Dream (realistically)?

Let's not start bashing him and saying he's not worth anything. If he plays all next year like he played the second half of the season then I say he deserves at least the $4.5 mil. He is still a great player and a Houston icon. $10 mil maybe too much, but let's just wait to see how the cards unfold.

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BIG QUESTION?

When a team renounces a free agent, don't they lose the ability to sign the FA for around 6 months?

Either Hakeem signs before Webber, Mo, Houston, or etc...or he's gone.

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