Vasectomy: $400. Speechless look on her face: priceless

I don't know musicians are in the same category as the last two groups of people ... lol

Maybe he's talking about those rock stars.

 

You did. Thaks for the apology.

I wasn't talking about you. Where in post did it say I was referring to you? And where the hell did I even say I thought that way? I said the exact opposite. Secondly, you go for talking about how you're not determined through me, to immediately caring about how other men think you are. Who the hell cares what they think? That is their mistake and in the end, their narrow-minded loss.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. Why are you so concerned with the opinions of men here? This is something that you do for yourself and your gender to create a sense of entitlement within yourselves. What men think of it does not matter.

Wanna know why men are the driving force in today's society? Because you feel the need for their respect, yet they do not feel any need for yours. Men control things because you believe that it is only through them that you can attain a place within society. Yet, they believe that it is only through their own merits that they can succeed.

If women, the majority of people in this world btw, truly thought they didn't need the validation of men to get anywhere, this world would be a far different place. Success must not be determined by what you do in a man's world and how much respect they give you, but by you understanding who you are, who you want to be as a person, and living up to that ideal every day. Yes you should strive for equality in society today, but not by demanding respect form a group that gives two sh*ts about you. No group gives you equality, you are born with it. It is up to you and your own mentality whether you can achieve it or not. As long as you subscribe to a subservient position, you''re screwed.

The crux of what I'm saying is, you can't get respect until you get your sh*t right and understand that, whether someone gives you that respect or not doesn't change who you are. You may understand this, but the vast majority of women I interact with do not. As a whole, you all have to get this first step right before even beginning to move on to the next.

are you f'n kidding me? No one's respect (or lack thereof) can make you a token. That is something that your psyche has to allow, which is what I have been talking about all along.

You know, i don't think you're even arguing with me anymore.

What I said: You have to respect yourself before others will even begin to respect you.

You said: I want others to respect me.

There is no contradiction there.

 

Or maybe her shift key broke?

*shrug*

 

Don't feel 'sorry' for her, but the games he played (in this' 'story') were despicable also.

 

For some of us, it is.

 

Agreed.

 

Can't let this get lost in this thread.

 

You're quite welcome.

Did I say you were? I merely commented how I personally felt but I didn't say you were talking about me.

Hmmm. Interesting. I'd say exactly the same thing about women. Most of what we say seems to not matter. Thats what you're missing. I'm concerned with the opinions of men because men have little girls and little boys too. Little boys grow up to be men with superiority complexes, and little girls grow up to be women how are marginalized and discriminated against. The problem is that how men think affects society just as much as how women think, but in our society men seem to hold more weight. It's not easy to overcome ingrained stereotypes that most people don't even realize they promote.

True. Women are more we oriented while men are more me oriented. You just don't get what I'm trying to say and I don't think you ever really will. As long as you think you're right theres really no point in me discussing this with you because you have your opinion and you're not going to change it and I'm pretty sure mine won't change either. So this back and forth is really not doing anything productive.

You may be right. I think women have a hard time vocalizing their thoughts and feelings when it comes to things like this. Funny you should say this. Girls are taught to be subservient from the moment they are born. It's a hard cycle to break.

Thats a very good idea but how do you propose women go about doing that? I'd like to know sense you have us all figured out.

I'm not even going there with you right now. So you're saying I have to allow you to make me a token? Women are born into this society as a token and thats what you seem to be missing. If you're viewed as a token from the moment you are born how do you change that? I never said that I want to be anybody's token anything but at the end of the day I know I'm still viewed that way. I never set out to be the "token" hot girlfriend but in the end thats still how people see me. I know thats not all I am but people who don't know me will never see that. Thats my problem with the way women are viewed in society. We always become a token something whether we try to or not.

You're right I'm not, because we aren't seeing this from the same perspective so niether of us is going to understand the other's perspective. I'm not really getting your overly simplistic "just fix it" point and you're not getting my "I'm a girl so I know what its like to be one" perspective.

 

I just don't like when men refer to a woman as "p***y." Not "A p***y" just "p***y" in the complete sexual sense. I mean, how degrading can you be?

 

I hear "piece of ass" more than anything. Dunno if you'd conider that worse or not. They're all bad though.

 

I dunno...just doesn't seem as annoying "man i love p***y dude." Such a macho-brah thing to say. There is nothing I hate MORE in the world than the whole macho guy thing. It's so annoying. I deeply respect guys that don't feel the need to act the way society wants them to.

 

Having had sexual relations with 10% of the female population of this board, I'd just like to say that I do not condone this type of behavior, and I knew this story was not chow_yun_fat's to begin with. The guy has never wowed anybody and this was too well written and sounded like a ruse to begin with.

 

And I deeply respect women that do the same. It's encouraging to see that we're both breaking ignorant mindsets.

 

*shakes head*

 

Dude I'm on your side here. You're a regular BBS poster, whats wrong with that?
So you don't have a special catch phrase or a bbs "Classic moment" no big deal. I read your story and knew it was pasted from somewhere else, I didn't think twice about it. I didn't scream OMFG OWNED OWNED OWNED in your face.

 

8==D​

thadeus wins again!

 

thadeus, just because you have an eight equals equals d, it doesn't mean you're better than us

 

no that's a giant e-penis. sheesh, doesn't anyone around here speak internet?

 

Well, Here's what I originally wrote, followed another rant:

The You Go Girl part was the one part applying something to all women as a whole. Other than that everything else was an observation calling it how I see it. I said a substantial amount have it in them - whats a substantial amount? It could be 15%, it could be 80%. The point of that comment is to say its more than we generally accept. I think women (because they worked to get that freedom) aren't all precious angels - It does not at ALL need to imply the opposite that women are EVIL. I didn't say WOMEN SUCK/men rule, say a women's place is behind a man, any of that. I think women nowadays are more like female guys

This topic is more looked down upon because of the thread starter falsely making the story about himself, and then the story itself not even appearing authentic. I STILL say the points of the story shine on through and have been worth discussing. I'll search for a clip of the show if they made one, but I for sure listened to guys call a radio show with the same type vasectomy stories that were very very legit, not some made up fiction crap.

No, two wrongs dont make a right. And the correct answer is both of these characters make themselves look bad. People only focusing on the guy for being a jackoff though- The woman in the story instigated the whole episode and threw it on his lap, selfishly using lies and deceit. I DOUBT the guy's part happens if she says to the guy this is what happened - you're a POSSIBLE father and we need to be fair to ourselves and the child. He wouldnt need to screwball around if it were handled responsibly. She was the total opposite of sincere and responsible- he needs to be understanding to her that he's getting lied to and getting his money took? lol. Sca-REW "desparation" as the motive. Sweeping things under the rug like that just isnt right. He played with feelings - She played with LIFE. And set herself up to get burned.