Well- if Luke Jackson did not hold back Chuck Hayes- that shot would not have been wide open. He literally had an arm lock- and that would have been a foul - and a change of possession. We can go on like this- first of all this game should not have gone into overtime- but I am glad we hung in there. Kudos to Juwan for the offensive rebound ( after missing the previous possession on a wide open jumper). Me thinks- Rafer should not be the ball handler- in crucial situations where the game is on the line.
Yeah, my first thought when I saw that was what the ****, Yao is going out to half court to trap someone?!?! Apparently, Kobe was just as surprised as I was and that led to the travel.
The rockets did make that play against the clippers, and it almost backfired terribly. While I'm not against fouling with a 3 point lead, the clippers game perfectly illustrates the dangers involved in fouling in that situation. JVG wanted to foul, and Dunleavy knew he wanted to foul, so he drew up a play in which Mobley caught and immediately started shooting. Idiot rafer reached out and fouled Cat even though he would not have made the rushed shot. Luckily, the ref bailed us out, and made the technically incorrect call. Javie probably knew what JVG was trying to do and just gave him the benefit of the doubt. The play shows that it's harder to do than it would appear. You never know when the player is gonna start taking a shot, no matter how terrible it might be. You don't know if the ref is going to call the foul on the floor, or if he's going to wait until the shot goes up and then blow the whistle. And last but not least, your players could execute your orders incorrectly and make a dumb mistake. So while it seems like the obvious thing to do, there are several things that can go wrong as well.
That was funny. Still, you have to wonder why PJ is so stubborn. JVG has been fouling Kwame intentionally in the 4th quarter for at least two of the previous Laker's games this season. I'm not sure why PJ doesn't anticipate this.
I am not sure what you would have said if Kwame hit the first and missed the second on purpose to get the rebound. It is quite conceivable that the Kobe 3 would not have happened- they may just be content to score a basket off the rebound which would be a higher probability shot than a 3. Still we would have a tie ( assuming it was 2). Fouling anyone would have been a good strategy- but the only difference is you would have let the clock run out a bit more- if it was not Kwame. Despite percentages Shaq does make some crucial free throws!
exactly. i think a lot of folks would expect a foul, just not that early in the shot clock. and i don't know if the plan was to foul a certain player, but it was a good thing Kwame got the ball.
That's a move of pure genius. Cause Kwame or Turiaf would've been the only people open and we would foul them for sure. Fouling Kwame in a late game situation when up 3 is pretty obvious to me though.
It's just preparation... knowing Kwame's FT shooting % in the 4th, knowing Lakers inbound plays... The rebounding part didn't work, but the move was correct as far as playing the percentages. The Kobe rebound and 3 was as much of a freak accident as the Horry rebound and 3 in the playoffs for the Lakers a few years back.
Actually I think PJ's plan was for Kwame to hit the first free throw and then miss the second one so that Kobe grabs the rebound and hits a three and the Lakers win the game. But Kwame missed the first one and messed Phil Jackson's plan. But he obviously outcoached Van Gundy by making him think he was outcoaching him.
I hope you're not serious. Purposely missing a free throw in hopes of getting the offensive rebound is a last resort strategy. I'm certain that wasn't Jackson's intention.
hacking brown just dont work in rocket's way, he hacked brown that last game in OT vs lakers in staples. And that didn't work out
Yeah, just kidding. But I don't know why I had a horrible feeling something like that was going to happen. I really thought the Rockets had zero chance of winning in OT. What an amazing game (at least the 4th quarter and OT).
No question, that was a routine, good move by JVG. But a genius one? Man, you JVG lovers surely have low standards for your man, lol. Talk about JVG's coaching ability, how about the Rocket's final possession at the end of regulation? The whole plan was basically to let T-Mac go solo again on a last second miracle shot, which despite being an extremely low probability event, has become a daily prayer for JVG. We see Yao already who already stationed in the low post had to rush out to set a pick for T-Mac, who would then pull up a jumper that was not even close, as the shot clock was winding down. Another ugly sequence for the Rockets under JVG's offensive scheme. Luckily, Kobe made a couple of fatal errors in the final stretch of the OT, thus saving JVG's ass.
I agree that JVG was pointing it out just to rub it into Big Chief Triangle, but I was amazed that anybody short of God would know what Kwame's FT% in the 4th quarter would be. lol.
The man has bags under his eyes for a reason I wonder how many hours a day he stares at scouting reports, stat breakdowns, etc.
I don't think there's another coach in the league who knows what the other team is going to run like JVG.
Agreed. To me, it wasn't such a smart move by Van Gundy as it was a dumb move by Phil. IMHO, you have to foul and prevent the three attempt and I think most coaches would do that. Why Phil had a 41% free thrower who shoots 31% in the 4th is beyond me. But I have always been of the mind that Phil was very over-reated as a coach, but that is a topic for another thread.
Tactics like these are used on a regular basis by Coaches like Avery Johnson. He isn't afraid to change up his normal game plan to attack the opponents weaknesses. Van Gundy does this kind of thing so rarely that when it does actually occur it gets its own thread! The guy won't even change up the rotation when Head is getting posted up by a 6'8" Stackhouse. I still support JVG. The defense speaks for itself. But he is too damn stubborn.
