LMAO! Some people are really dumb to think people want JVG vanishes because 1 loss. All JVG nah-sayers has been saying it all along. If you are deaf and blind, then noboby can help you.
Yep, and they all looked stupid all season, and they will go back to looking stupid after the Rox beat the Jazz. It turns out that no team has won every game in a season. Winning 50+ games and getting a top 4 seed (in effect if not in name) in a very tough western conference is not the sign of a bad coach. I'm sure the JVG haters will be out after the next game the Rox lose, but they will look just as stupid then as they do now and as they have all year long. Maybe they can all get together with V-SPAN and Novak and cry about what a mean troll JVG is and how he is ruining them.
Good Lord, another dummy! Sam Mitchell, Maurice Cheek and a long list of coaches can win 50+ games with T-Mac and Yao providing with the same injuries this season. Is T-Mac and Yao an automatic guarantee for 50+ wins regular season and 2nd round playoff appearance? Guess what, even JVG lovers is not so sure about the answer. Next level? Championship? These words just dont tie with JVG.
JVG is otcoached a lot. He is not an elite coach. But, if yao and tmac cant shoot, that's their problem.
I don't care if Phil Jackson is our coach...if we play the Mavs (GS just happens to be a bad matchup for them), we have very little chance to win with the lineup we have...$20 MM of extra payroll will do that to a roster Look, I can understand people's frustrations with JVG (negative interviews, slow offense, etc...) BUT he has done a helluva job this season and deserves praise, not constant criticism
Also, Phil Jackson must suck these days b/c he has players talking sh*t to and about him and they are down in the playoffs No wait...he has a bunch of players that cannot create their own shots (JVG is no Phil, but I hope I made a decent point)
That's a bad arguement IMO. Does that make Jerry Sloan less of a coach because he had Karla Malone and John Stockton in their primes? With those calibre players, they're guaranteed at least 50-60 wins...right? Both coaches have been to the finals, but neither has a ring. Why do people consider Jerry Sloan a better coach? You can argue against JVG's coaching abilities, but he has lead a team to the finals...he may not be as good as Jerry Sloan, but why not? They have the same results so far in their coaching careers... Talent of players is not something you should judge a coach on. Obviously even an interim coach would probably win close to 50 or more with guys like T-Mac and Yao...and even Red Auerbach or Phil Jackson need talent for their genius coaching to show through. It's what a coach does once he HAS the talent that should be judged. A lot of people critiscize JVG for his lack of offensive creativity, now I'm not saying he is an offensive genius, but what else do you want him to do? He has a few sets that get his star players open everytime. It maybe easy to see , but it's nearly impossible to stop. People just keep b****ing about it because they have nothing else. If Yao lets himself be pushed too far out by Mehmet freaking Okur that's his fault, not JVG's, if Yao has picked up the bad habit of keeping the ball low, that's his fault, not JVG's. If T-Mac decides to play like a little pansy and be taken out of his offense by physical no-names, that's his problem. JVG calls good timeouts, at halftime he usually prepares the team well, and he has the team playing good defense and there is no denying it. His faults are probably his short rotation and unwillingness to give players a chance. This is pretty much nit-picking though. He just doesn't have enough talent, ALL he has is T-Mac and Yao. I think he does a pretty good job. It really isn't his fault if half his team, or more, can't hit a freaking open shot. T-Mac and Yao get hounded continuously and they always find their teammates an open shot yet they barely knock them down. If we had players who could, JVG's coaching would look a lot better, but since we don't, you have to take it for what it is. How is it that a team full of professionals who get wide open shots have only 4 of them hit in a game? That's disgraceful. That's a credit to T-Mac and Yao because that is the dead-weight they have been carrying this entire season. Are you kidding...only 4 players to score!? They got open shots too, they have to make them though. Like I said, JVG is not perfect, he is too stubborn IMO, but that's really about it. Yao can't let himself be pushed so far out of the block by Okur, he has to keep the ball high and limit his dribbling, and T-Mac has to stop playing like a pansy and stop taking tough jumpers. He needs to force the issue. And the role players and bench players need to make a freaking shot.
Well, the thread started is absolutely right! He never took that guy off the floor! There is no player outside of Allen Iverson that can compete for that long. To what benifit is it to have Rafer on the court if he gives Tracy the ball before he crosses half court? He sure isnt knocking down any shots...Use the other guys and mix it up! Avery dug deep for answers when player Agers against GS
After watching tonights game I think there is some legitimacy in Sloan outcoaching JVG. One particular instance is having Okur post up on Hayes and using the height advantage as a mismatch. Something he never did in games 1 and 2. He's also has the Jazz coming at McGrady in a flurry of different ways. And he's also forcing Rafter Alston to beat them instead of Mcgrady.
It's interesting how so many of you seem to agree with me now... I actually put this loss a little less on Jeff and more on the players, although I still firmly believe that he is getting absolutely schooled by Sloan. Jeff is being outcoached without a doubt, but this most recent loss was a team effort. I couldn't be more disappointed in McGrady. His body language made it very apparent that his mind wasn't into this game at all. Of course it is still ultimately Jeff's job to put the right group on the floor. It's also his job to put together a game plan where we aren't beling blow out by 20 points at the end of the third quarter. I just didn't see much modification in our sets, although I was a little encouraged by his slightly more liberal substitution patterns. Baby steps?
Does anyone else feel like when the Jazz were inside the free throw line, they all knew exactly where the ball was going and were there to make a play? On our side, it seems like the only times we looked like we knew where the ball was going was when it was at the very top of the key and then it was so unorganized after that
He learned from Riley... Riley played John Starks too long back in '94 and see what happened?...gut feel...that's what Rudy had...sometimes you have to be willing to pull a player out that's struggling with someone who can give the team a little energy...
