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Van Gundy was BADLY outcoached tonite

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Hank McDowell, Apr 26, 2007.

  1. ekim

    ekim Member

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    Yes but HE quited on us.
     
  2. demon77

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    most likely not, since he might contribute more TO then points.
     
  3. Hank McDowell

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    Rafer didn't play bad? Did you even watch the game?

    In the history of basketball, no team has ever had only 4 players score in a playoff game. That's something that hasn't ever been done before. Not ever. And while it is true that Jeff can't go out there and make the shots for them, it absolutely is his job to make the adjustments.

    Now I challenge every single one of you who thinks I'm r****ded for posting this criticism to tell me the exact adjustments that Jeff made tonite during the course of the game tonite to improve the bench situation.

    Go ahead.

    Name one single adjustment.

    Jeff ran his gameplan into the ground tonite and stubbornly refused to adjust either his rotation or his strategy when it became clear very early that what he was doing was not going to be effective. Period.

    It's not entirely his fault we lost the game, but he did absolutely nothing to help matters.
     
  4. tsunami

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    I am surprised that this thread only gets an average 2 stars. Doesn't it tell the truth of game 3?
     
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    only those who did not watch the game can claim that we're outcoasched
     
  6. ekim

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    Yes I watched the game apparently you didn't. AGAIN, its not JVG's fault that Luther and Juwan both proved bench scorer during the regular season didn't hit their wide open shots... If you think bring in our bench players like Lucas, VSpan or Novak would've help us then I am done arguing with you. They might score points but will give up even more points... JVG played to win until the end not just to break the "only 4 players scored" curse.
     
  7. OddsOn

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    FU$& off!!!

    You bandwagon fan MF
    Somehow I just knew the board would be ripe with dumbasss posts like this... :rolleyes:
     
  8. durvasa

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    Of course he would have.
     
  9. jaggedpole

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    I have to agree JVG was outcoached tonight. What do you expect when his offensive plan is just give the ball to yao or tmac and let them figure it out? he actually calls it simplicity lol. Have you seen any play ran through shane on the post? how bout a play on luther? none. You have got to diversify your offense so you don't run down your key players where they won't be effective in the 2nd half. you don't expect other players to produce when you don't run a play on them.
     
  10. OLDNEWS

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    what I see is the ball is always in Yao and T-mac's hands.The others can not even touch the ball except rafer.How can they make this shoot with the cold hands.I think T-mac come back to that Me-mac.He should be the playmaker again and we should have more patience in offence pass the ball more and make the attack after 20s so that everyone is included in the offence.
    Anyway,this loss is expected,we can not sweep the 6th best record team in nba.Next game is tough for each team but Rockets will win and finish this series with 4-1.Plus Hapring play very nastily.
     
  11. Hank McDowell

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    Here's Rafer's line for the game...

    45 2-5 2-4 0-0 1 7 5 5 1 1 2 6

    If any of you honestly believe that this is an acceptable box score you need to take off your Red Rowdy glasses and wake the hell up. He was as near a non-factor as a starter who played 45 minutes could possibly be.

    He didn't run the offense well, he didn't protect the ball well, he wasn't a factor offensively, his defense was marginal, he did NOT have a good game by any reasonable stretch of the imagination whatsoever.

    He played 45 freaking minutes of extremely intense basketball with almost no rest at all the entire game. Honestly, how good could he have been under those circumstances?

    Jeff has two other point guards who could have spelled him. They may not be great, but they are both professional basketball players. Give them at least a few minutes so Rafer can rest, and maybe Rafer plays a more productive game. Maybe he gets the offense a little more settled. Maybe he has the energy to be a better scoring option? Maybe he plays a little better defense and doens't turn the ball over as much? Honestly, what could it have hurt on a night like tonight?
     
  12. The_Yoyo

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    the only time i would say jvg was "outcoached" or did not make adjustments was when he had luther guarding harpring in a stretch in the fourth which help the lead go from 8 to 12 real quick. other than that i mean no one was hitting shots and there were a lot of wide open shots missed. there was a stretch in the 3rd where juwan missed one layup and 3 wide open jumpers in a row. there were a lot of wide open shots just not made...there isnt much jvg can do about that.

    we still lead the series 2-1 and play again i am sure there will be adjustments made unfortunately it seems that the way the refs call the game will determine a lot on how the series will be. but i dont expect another game like this from the rockets again, i mean even a poor shooting night would have won the game, too bad we had a piss poor shooting night
     
  13. jaggedpole

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    It's hard for Tmac to be a playmaker because Utah is not collapsing on him unlike the regular season games. They're daring him to beat them one on one. But coach still thinks Tmac's brilliance will save this team.
     
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    JVG's defense is why the Jazz could only score 81 points. With this pathetic offensive performance, we would normally lose by 30+ points if it weren't for the defense. Speaking of that defense, that's why WE'RE UP 2-1 IN THE SERIES. I'll take JVG, thank you.
     
  15. Hank McDowell

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    I swear to Christ it's like arguing with a god damn special ed class around here.

    You people can't possibly be this stupid. It's just not possible.

    You say it's not JVG's fault that Luther didn't hit his shots, but would you agree that it is his fault that he played Luther as much as he did while Snyder only played 2 minutes the entire game?

    Is it possible that maybe Snyder might have had a better game than Luther tonight if given the opportunity?

    When something doesn't work, it is the coaches job to make adjustments.

    Nobody else has that authority.

    In the history of playoff basketball, no coach has ever had bench play like Jeff did tonight. Some of that falls on his own choices. Even a fool should be able to see that at least part of the blame for that performace should fall directly on the coach. Those of you who can't see that are blinded by your own dumb loyalty.
     
  16. Panda

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    I don't think JHo, Head and others are the worst players among so many playoffs teams in the history, but they together made an NBA record of least players scored in a game.

    I gotta ask why what makes our role players underachieve on offense?
     
  17. DonkeyMagic

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    and the blind haters crawl out from under their rock.
     
  18. ikfit

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    No, all is coach's faults, when you see he is cold , you need to make adjust and should prepair some plan for this. Using differ players to do differ things, like... you know, can not hit jump, then drive to rim, we just have tmac can drive to rim on his rotation. Look at f king Jazz, how many points their bench scored and how do they defence us. this is absolutly over coached.

    JVG sucks
     
  19. Luffy1

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    Yes we could have. We win this game if Bonzi played tonight.
     
  20. Nice Rollin

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    im not saying alston wouldve contributed and made this into a rocket victory, but jvg has gotta find a way to get him a breather. he's played 47,45 and 45 minutes in the three games (my nightmares have come true)...but i dont think he can go on like this and play well. I mean, it's already hard enough for him to play well when he's playing 35-40 mins. jvg has gotta trust his bench. we wont go anywhere without them so we might as well play them now...
     

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