so all the stories of francis and mobley being gym rats and always working on their games and mobley specifically adding something every year just mean nothing to you DavidS. that PS2 comment was just plain moronic given everything that's ever been reported about francis and mobley in the offseason. but then, this is you talking, so i expect it. i especially loved the working out, away from the team comment since that is exactly what people seem to be mad about in this thread, that they have the gall to work out in their hometowns and not in houston, even though it's still working out and practicing.
It is more of a Balance thing with me. Everyone is Overly Praising Van Gundy and Overly Dissiing the Players I haven't BASHED him as much as point out he has weaknesses too I want the TEAM to have success Not Francis Not Ming Not Van Gundy THE TEAM I prefer it that all of them are happy doing it Rocket River
Yeah, I'm sure that's what he's thinking. More like "how the hell did Rudy get two winning seasons out of this group?"
There is an understanding in NBA employment (that may or may not be formalized in the CBA) that the offseason is the time you get off. There is also an understanding that players should show up to training camp in shape, so there is some work there. But, there is no reason why they should have to sacrifice their only free time to the demands of the league even if they are underperforming. They don't get personal days, or sick time (even when they are injured they're expected to work on rehab); they don't get to take off Christmas or Thanksgiving or any other holiday; they don't get Sundays off; they travel constantly and see their families inconsistently during the season. I think it is wrong to take the offseason away from them, even if the team suffers as a result. Gater, I see where it says the Hawks voluntarily trained together, but I don't see where it says Stotts had access. It says he worked on the defense and was waiting for pieces for the offense, but I think he's working on paper there.
But they do get to make Millions of dollars and live in nice houses. They will have plenty of time off when they are retired. I dont feel the least bit sorry for them, not the least. I get two week off a year, what are talking about? Whats the over under on MO T's big butt? 300LBS, I'll take the over... Wish we could move him out of here....
Not to pick on you, and this is completely off of the subject, but I find the disdain for uninons on the BBS unbelievable at times. I just don't get your point about Miller, I'm sure Miller's products aren't suffering because the union prevents them from hiring the best bottlers.
hey Kumbayah River, the truth hurts . . . Rudy damaged these players and in turn the franchise more than some of you understand. Some of these guys, Francis included, may be rotten to the core at worst, and years away from being rehabilitated at best. Only Yao is safe, and he won't stick around if Van Gundy doesn't get cooperation from Les / CD to make personnel changes rather quickly if they aren't willing to start playing by JVG's rules instead of within Rudy's "system." The clock is ticking until Yao becomes the most sought-after free agent in the history of any team sport league.
Where is all the Steve doesn't practice stuff coming from? Anyone who's read articles about previous off-seasons knows that the guy is a workaholic. He does more than just pick up games. He has is own routine, pick up games, and has in the past gone to the coaches and CD and asked what he can work on and practice on. He's asked other established veterans what he needs to work on, and tried to work out according to the advice given. I don't mind criticism of STeve's mistakes, but people are trying to label him with faults the guy doesn't have.
Or maybe he was thinking; "How the hell do I convince TheF... errr... the players that liking Rudy doesn't require hating me?"
francis 4 prez... I'll bash Francis anytime I get a chance because he's a moronic "point guard." He has yet to show the fans that he can run this team in an intelligent way (regardless how much he works-out). So, as time goes on, and Francis continues to fumble is way through playing a "point guard." He'll continue to get bashed by not just me, but other Francis critics. And his "gym rat" reputation is him just being a "play-ya on the play ground." He's not learning his position -- and maybe he never will! I agree that part of the problem was Rudy's simplistic offensive knowledge. But Francis takes the blame too. He is the "leader" of the Rockets, and will be on the receiving end of most of the criticism on the successes and failures of this team. So he's a gym rat! Big deal! Has this, so called, "gym rat" time, improved his game? Hmmm...??? I have yet to see it.
Because there's a difference between practicing the game, and playing the game. Something I hope JVG can teach him.
So Basically If Van Gundy pisses Yao off . . .Yao will be off just as fast Or Will Van Gundy kick every . .except Yao . . . kisses Yao @ss at everyturn? Remains to be seens QUESTION: If Yao comes out in Feb saying how he dislikes Van Gundy what will you do then Rocket River [DIVIDE BY ZERO ERROR!!!!]
Van Gundy isn't going to piss Yao off, because Yao understands what a player - coach relationship is supposed to entail.
You just changed the argument. If you want to argue whether Steve's relentless work ethic has helped that's one thing... But the arguments being tossed around here are that Steve isn't working out, and that he's more concerned with other things. That hasn't been Steve's style since the beginning. Furthermore we don't know which playes JVG was upset about. It could be that he's not worried about Steve, of Cat because he knows they are getting in shape and working on their game. It could be that his anger was directed towards people who are on the bubble of making the team. Maybe his anger is dismay at how someone could be fighting for a job on the team and not showing up for the workouts. Of course he could be talking about his star players. For the record most of Hakeem's offseason training was not with the team. He would add things to his game every off-season and proposed a camp where the ten best centers in the league would meet and show each other two moves. Dream said that while giving up two of your moves you would end up gaining 18 new ones to add to your arsenal. Hakeem thought that it would improve the whole game of basketball. But anyway Dream wasn't working out with the team, but he was working out.
Come on man! Figure it out...it's called sarcasm...."a shot," a critical jab... Again, let me make myself clear.... Francis plays pick up game after pick up game....sweating and tired...(But, hey! He had fun, didn't he?)...the coach says, "Hey, lets work on free-throw technique..." Francis, says... "Nah, man. I gots to go drive my Hummer." Get it yet?
The "relentless work ethic" has done what? Could it be that's he's not working on the rights things...and maybe JVG can help him? Or at least provide some insight on why he hasn't improved his game over the years. If someone is bumping their head up against a wall again and again...you stop them. Whatever they are doing...it's not working.
