Van Gundy Challenges Officials and Says an Owner Is to Blame

I want to know (a) if there was actually an official who tipped JVG and if so (b) who it was.

 

Actually I agree that the Rockets has to do better as a team, both offensively and defensively. Yao has to be more smart and adjust his games, especially with those moving screens. If the refs pointed out clearly, he has to do less, show his respect and satisfy their egos. With JVG's message acrossed, I hope the refs would call it more evenly, so both sides get something to "save face". I would expect them to let Yao play more physically as return.

 

You guys who want to just have Yao go in the post, and dump it in... what team have you been watching the ENTIRE year.

Our offense is based on PICK AND ROLL right now... nothing else. Yao sets our best screen for Tracy, and gives Tracy the best option off of it.

For us to get the ball to Yao in the paint, we run a secondary play... which involves Yao running off a series of screens, to prevent his defender from setting up and fronting him. A play that's very effective when run correctly... but involves a great deal of execution to be carried out. (thus, it can be easily thrown off by just one defender getting around a screen to deny the entry pass).

Guys who are smaller than Yao, are able to front him or deny the entry pass by leaning in and poking it away from under him (a boreder-line foul)... we've known that forever now. Sometimes, Yao is allowed to fight them for position... but when they put Dirk on him, there's no way Yao can fight or else they'll call the offensive foul. Could you imagine the refs allowing Dirk to guard Shaq? No... Shaq would be allowed (and justly so) to throw Dirk to the ground in order to get position, because the refs know that Dirk has no business guarding him... but Yao doesn't even get a sniff of that, even though the size disparity is very much there.

Maybe Yao will gain enough respect in the future so that smaller players can't do the hooking, grabbing, and dislodging that they normally do to deny him position... but until then, our best offense is pick and roll based.

Thus, if they call all illegal screens... we're screwed... hence the reason why JVG is calling this out now.

 

Playoff Center Position Foul Stats:

Nenad Krstic NJN 4_ 38.5_ 5.0_
_Clifford Robinson NJN 4_ 17.8_ 5.0_
_Yao Ming HOU 4_ 28.8_ 5.0_
_Jason Collins NJN 4_ 32.0_ 4.8_
_Antonio Davis CHI 3_ 29.7_ 4.7_
_Amare Stoudemire PHO 4_ 37.0_ 4.3_
_Jerome James SEA 4_ 33.3_ 4.0_
_Danny Fortson SEA 4_ 9.8_ 4.0_
_Erick Dampier DAL 4_ 21.8_ 4.0_
_Brad Miller SAC 4_ 24.3_ 4.0_
_Shaquille O'Neal MIA 4_ 33.0_ 4.0_
_Samuel Dalembert PHI 4_ 39.8_ 3.5_
_Alonzo Mourning MIA 4_ 15.5_ 3.5_
_Raef LaFrentz BOS 4_ 24.3_ 3.5_
_Nazr Mohammed SAS 3_ 25.7_ 3.3_
_Tim Duncan SAS 3_ 30.0_ 3.3_
_Dikembe Mutombo HOU 4_ 16.8_ 3.3_
_Rasheed Wallace DET 4_ 35.8_ 3.0_
_Etan Thomas WAS 3_ 18.7_ 2.7_
_Marcus Camby DEN 3_ 35.7_ 2.7_
_Brendan Haywood WAS 3_ 22.7_ 2.7_
_Nene Hilario DEN 3_ 17.0_ 2.7_
_Dale Davis IND 4_ 22.3_ 2.5_
_Lorenzen Wright MEM 4_ 21.3_ 2.5_

 

This will be nothing but a distraction for this team. The last thing a team who has just blown two home games needs is their coach b****ing about refs. Now every time a foul is called this team will be thinking about Cuban, Refs, and conspiracies. That’s not what they need and no matter how you feel about the way Yao is officiated, Yao still picks up stupid fouls trying to draw charges, trying to block shots after the ball is released, etc. Van Gundy needs this team to be focusing on themselves. I really can’t believe he brought this up. The time to complain about foul calls is in the game when they happen and then move on.

 

I am pretty sure JVG knows his team better than you do.

If our players are distracted by what JVG is saying to the press, then we have the wrong bunch to begin with.

 

Exactly what I was thinking.

I'm sure they all know the mind games that go on between the fans, the coaches, the media, the league and the refs. If they don't, JVG will be sure to let them know.

 

Yao needs to start crushing other players once in a while to show the refs what a real foul is. Then maybe he can get away with some of the more borderline fouls.

 

i have to agree with what TNT was saying. I have no problems with yao coming over and picking up a foul if he's trying to block the shot, not taking a charge. He does come over late, he'll learn. Taking charges though, BAH, WEAK for a man of his size.

 

That is what's so wonderful about protecting one's sources. No one can ever prove he's making it up. Notice how some have it as after game 2, some after game 3, and even in some places - after game 4.

Seriously, we now know the real match-up is Jeff Van Gundy vs. Mark Cuban.

 

I will tell you what, Jason Terry got an and-1 in the game where he should have been flattened by Yao - instead Yao just fell back trying to get the call.

 

JVG has stayed quit all season long as the ref's have been hounding Yao will foul calls left and right. Its about DAMN time he steps up and calls them out. I personaly think he was waiting for the right time to come out and say it. Saying it publicaly one time is a bigger statment than saying the same thing over and over again. Lets just hope so at least.

 

Those two statements are not mutually exclusive. This series would be over if EITHER we played well down the stretch OR the refs treated Dirk & Yao equally. Fix both problems and the Mavs lose games 1, 3, & 4 all by double digits. (Both teams played a great game in game 2 and, by comparison at least, the refereeing was reasonable.)

TNT announcers pointed out that while there was a lot of banging being allowed underneath, the slightest touch was drawing a foul outside. Then the bump which almost knocks Tracy down doesn't get called. Why? Because it was Dirk.

One thing I'll never understand about how effective this kind of flopping is. If I were a referee and made a call, then saw what a completely bogus flop that Malone, Dirk, etc. were doing, I'd be mad at the player for trying to sucker me and at myself for being suckered. If anything, I'd be more inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to their opponents in the future! Referees have to be aware of this. They're too close to the game not to hear the kind of reputation these players get. And they can see the replays as well as anybody else. Why the HELL does this continue to work?!!

 

I like the way JVG stood up for his player, but I have a bad feeling for this. The refs won't like to be controlled by anyone, coaches, or players.

Do you guys remember last's series against the Lakers? JVG did the same thing, but Yao got called more fouls after his public complaining.

 

Here's what I think.

We've established that yao has been treated somewhat unfairly. We have also concluded that yao needs to play smarter and steer clear of obvious foul traps that is thrown upon him.

Right now, the best thing for yao to do is to try and stay on court as much as possible, even if it means giving the other team occasional easy two points layups. Fact of the matter is we don't really have a second big man on court to help out in guarding the paint, not in this series at least as bowen needs to guard dirk whenever he's on the court, spoon hasn't even been playing, and padgett well n/m he's a SF Anyone else miss Cato?

I know it sounds weak as we're the best paint defending team, but I also think it's critual for yao to be able to stay on court and play as our second best player for at least 30 mins. Except for game 2, Yao never sat down because we needed to give him a rest or because JVG needed to make adjustments, he sat down because we needed to protect him from getting fouled out, and that is

Yao being able to stay on court longer will also mean that Tmac is able to take some much needed rest from time to time, Tmac ain't no Iverson in terms of stamina ya know.

 

Wow just in JVG receives $100,000 fine!

Source 790 AM

 

$100,000 fine!!!!!

Just heard on 790 ...

Unbelievable ... If that doesnt get the Rockets players to believe their coach is 100% behind them, nothing will. That's dedication from a coach right there.

 

100,000? Not 10,000?

Wow, it is unbelievable! Go JVG!

 

ASK CUBAN WHO KNOWS WHY.

 

Now is the time for the players to stick up for their coach by winning the series.