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V-Tech Shooting

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Sishir Chang, Apr 16, 2007.

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  1. RIET

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    Id like to see how you can line people up in a row and stab them all while the victims just stand there.
     
  2. Ottomaton

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    I'm not trying to single you out here. It's not your terminology. But, this is another example of people not knowing what they are talking about setting policy. By definition an assault rifle can fire both 'semi-auto' (i.e. one bullet at a trigger pull) and some version of full auto. The 'assault rifle ban' is a giant misnomer. The bill had nothing to do with assault rifles.
     
  3. ToothYanker

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    Martial arts training is overrated. Anyone who's seen MMA knows that your standard Kungfu/Karate/Taekwondo expert is no match for a grappler. And, when poop hits the fan, how many stupid blocks and non-lethal cyclone kicks can a martial arts expert get off before the criminal with a gun blows him a way? I'm gonna go ahead and say none. Gun >>>> No Gun + 20 years of Martial Arts.
     
  4. Bandwagoner

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    How evil!!!!

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  5. Bandwagoner

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    Hey don't tell me the UK laws are stuipid! I agree!
     
  6. NewYorker

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    Yeah I know....As long as the rifle isn't in anyway automatic and uses ammo designed for hunting that's fine by me. I totally respect hunters and feel they should be able to use fire-arms for that purpose.

    But any kind of rifle that's capable of killing a human target at long range or with bursts of fire, definitely should be banned.
     
  7. NewYorker

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    What about the freedom lost by those 32 people today to live? Do you care about that much?
     
  8. NewYorker

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    That and that all guns require a license. Guiliani helped cut down murders in new york by 1/3 - primiarily through tough gun laws.
     
  9. Ifartedpoop

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    The United States needs to be more like Amsterdam now. How often do you see a school shooting at freaking 7 in the damn morning?? zero; you know why? Because they're too damn baked to do anything but screw skanky whores who smell like staled weeks old of Kellogg's smacks!
     
  10. NewYorker

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    at least i have a chance against a knife. I can run. I can do self-defense. Against a gun, your helpless pretty much.

    What are you going to do even if you are carrying a gun and someone points a gun at you and asks for your wallet? Are you going to reach for your gun instead?

    And if someone insults you and is giving you a hard time - you going to walk away, or are you going to act tough because you know you got your trusty gun to handle the situation in case it escalates?

    More guns = more death.
     
  11. Invisible Fan

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    Every year there are drunk drivers who kill people or accidents that shouldn't have happened while driving a 500lb to one ton vehicle (sleeping, talking on cell). To think that there'd be less death and crime if we armed everyone is silly, given that eventually everyone would take it for granted and live like the way they usually do.
     
  12. Deckard

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    Clearly, you have freaked out. Try some warm milk.



    D&D. Milky Way.
     
  13. ROXTXIA

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    I'm at work and didn't have time to read the entire thread but here's my three cents worth:

    I had just come back from military service when I found that in Iowa City (where I had lived many years, and where I would return), an Asian student who lost out on a scholarship to another Asian student went on a rampage on the University of Iowa campus. The tragedy wasn't numerically "as bad" as VTech but still, yes, there is a precedent here, even though I don't know all the details yet.

    But this thread deserves to be here not because of race but this is a horrible tragedy. 33 people?!?!? I saw this in the other forum and thought, ????
     
  14. weslinder

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    To everyone who thinks that banning guns would do a lot, because it did in some European countries (which it didn't, but I digress), you need to understand the difference in culture. Guns have been a part of the American framework since its beginning. Guns are a part of our culture unlike anything in Europe. You make guns illegal in the UK, and you do a reasonable (no one would call it significant) job of reducing gun ownership. To understand what banning guns in a "gun culture" would be like, look closer to home. Mexico banned guns years ago.
     
  15. FranchiseBlade

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    I think you are speaking about tourists in Amsterdam.
     
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    Just to let you know, that traditional Kung-fu training includes grappling.
     
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    If True [and I do beleive you]
    This is very Distressing

    Rocket River
     
  18. FranchiseBlade

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    I think we should only have single shot muskets, wheel-lock dueling pistols allowed for fire-arms. Anyone should be allowed to carry a sword though.
     
  19. Bandwagoner

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    Wow that almost seems worth it. :p
     
  20. Sishir Chang

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    Martial arts encompasses grappling such as in Judo and Jujitsu.

    As far doing cyclone kicks that would be about the stupidest thing you could do in a self-defense situation. Most self-defense techniques deal with strikes to vulnerable / painful areas, breaking grips and personal protection from blows. More advanced training involves weapons disarming which isn't that difficult even including handguns.

    About 85% of self-defense is what happens before you have to fight, recognizing and avoiding threats. The part where you have to fight most of it is mental and any good self-defense course will emphasize personal psychology.

    Whether you have a gun or not it makes no difference if you can't act on it. The difference though of gun vs. no gun is that you don't have to worry about your gun being taken away from you because you are either to afraid or stressed to use it properly and the threat to others from not being able to aim and fire well under stress.
     

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