V-Span might join Spurs after friendship with Parker

It didn't say what?

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1914877#post1914877

This is obviously where this post came from, just do a Yahoo search and check a few pages and you will find it.

"Billy tell me that he signs with Pana contract before Spurs released him, he signs it just a little after Rockets get beat by Jazz. He did change his mind and wanted to play with Spurs after talking to Parker. Spurs want him and told him they want to keep him.

Billy have made up his mind originally to leave NBA because of Rockets and Van Gundy and also because they would not allow him time with his mother. His mother even came to US to Houston and the coach would not let her call to talk to him when she was depressed and the team was traveling. Billy says that Van Gundy kept making fun of his language and accent in practice and how he ask what coach is saying sometimes.

He says Van Gundy tells him he needs translator like Yao but that he won't allow one this time because he doesn't want them around practice. Billy speaks English but sometimes he have problems with some things being said and some terms, he ask question and instead of being told answer by coach Van Gundy makes fun of him and accent.

He says then the coach would tell him that's why he rides bench, because he doesn't have time to explain things it's easier to just make him sit there than tell him things.

It makes it hard for him to get plays and Van Gundy told him he couldn't play point guard. He says Rockets coach make many players angry, himself, Yao, Mutombo, Wells, Snyder, Lucas, Novak, Howard, Tsakalidis, Hayes.

He says Rockets coach always let T-Mac, Head, Alston, Battier practice how they want. He never yell at them in practice and always talks nice and gentle with them.

He always yell at other players and always on them like crazy. He act worst with Billy and Yao. He says himself and Yao and Lucas works on game all day all time and always coach be so mean to them like a crazy dog. He says the coach always calling him, Yao, Hayes, Lucas names and calling them out. He says T-Mac never ever get this abuse.

So Billy went ahead and signed the contract with Pana before Rockets traded him. Because FIBA has rule against this the team could not send the contract in until he was released by Rockets. But from when the contract is signed it is binding.

Rockets then trade Billy to Spurs. Pana still cannot send contract in until Spurs release him due to FIBA rules, but because Billy sign contract already it is binding he play with Pana.

So Billy and his agent and Pana work out where Billy can opt out of his contract after one year if he wants to play with Spurs and if they still want him at that time.

Only reason he not going to Spurs training camp is because he already signs contract with Pana and that's binding.

Spurs like him more than Vaughn and Beno. Parker he says told Buford he likes his game very much. Also he says Lindsey tells Spurs he is much better player than Vaughn or Beno.

Billy tells me he stays with Pana this year, gets his mother back in good health and him and his brother get a situation set up for her help.

His goal for year is Greek league title, Greek cup and Euroleague title. He sets goal to be Greek league MVP, playoffs MVP, Euroleague MVP and Euroleague playoff MVP.

He will work on his game all year very hard, especially ball handling, turnovers, NBA range 3 point shooting out to 8 m he says and he keeps using weights. He then try to make Spurs next year as FA at Spurs training camp. He says they already give him invite."


Now I read this 3 times. I am failing to see any place where it says Van Gundy barred him from using the phone with his mother.

Can you kindly actually point out where it says this rather than just say it says it.

 

You prove my point exactly. You have never seen these players play and it is so obvious.

Anyone who has ever seen for example Diamantidis plays knows he's an all star the INSTANT he joins the NBA.

I'm not a "Euro fan" either I am a basketball fan, NCAA NBA and other leagues like Europe.

First and foremost NBA fan and Rockets fan. I just happen to actually have seen these teams play and what these players can do.

No matter what American fans seem to think they are being extremely ignorant about the levels of a team like Panathinaikos.

 

I called it.

 

Be careful you will have about 100 posts straight saying you make things up...........

 

Yes, I see that it was the other way around now...V-Span's mother calling him a lot. This was reported in the Chronicle too.

With regard to the atmosphere of the Rocket's locker room. The atmosphere was divisive and brought about by the coach. That's the worst kind of locker room cancer you could possibly have. The following story about Francis and Yao during the changeover from Rudy T to JVG should lend a bit more credence to the scenario of a coach run amuck.

http://www.************.com/forum/v...ad&PHPSESSID=88adb270b3d4d1671cccfe841fbfc987

http://nba.sports.tom.com/2007-07-23/0424/85198677.html

Yao Ming said, "It was still during the preseason, and Cuttino Mobley already could not withstand the team’s atmosphere. He told one reporter: “I miss Rudy T so much.” Then Jeff Van Gundy benched him for 4 consecutive games with the reason that he had a sprained left buttock. Amidst such atmosphere, every player started to feel the pressure and the threat".

 

If VSpan decide to come back next year, I'd still take him over any point guards we have on our roster today.

 

Like VSpan was, right?

Okay, I've seen Diamantidis play and I'd be willing to bet he could make an NBA team, probably start, and *possibly* be an all-star at some point. You are undoubtedly among the few who know "he's an all star the INSTANT he joins the NBA." In fact, it's statements like that one that have so many of us laughing at your bold, emphatic proclamations.

Even if I give you Diamantidis as an NBA-level talent, that still leaves EIGHT scrubs on your list, three of whom had legitimate shots with NBA clubs and simply did not have the talent to make a career here.

You must be firing up some crack in one of those beakers.

 

It didn't say this:

You made up an insinuation when they article/translation indicates that after V-Span's mom came to Houston, she was depressed when V-Span was on the road and that JVG would not allow her to call him.

The article's insinuation that JVG would not allow VSpan to have contact with his mother while the team was away from Houston is asinine and your insinuation and speculation on what the author really meant in order to defend said writer's rambling manifesto is equally asinine.

 

So, V-Span was having problems with JVG too.

Explain why JVG let Bonzi off for "personal reasons" but not VSpan?

Neither got along with JVG, so why one and not the other?

Nice bias there. You really believe those rambling posts from Hoopworld don't you?

Scary.

 

Not that you have ever been taken seriously, but posts like this don't help your cause.

 

Cause Bonzi had the balls to tell JVG to go F off.

 

Pure speculation.

Keep going.

BTW, just saw another rambling post on Hoopsworld. Apparently, JVG also gave V-Span a tittie twister after every turnover in practice. Missed 3 pt shots cost V-Span a wedgie from Deke and anytime V-Span's mom called him, it was off to the locker room for a swirly.

 

Yeah keep tellin me it's speculation. Why else would Bonzi walk off the team before the playoffs? In a court of law the weight of the evidence would be with me.

 

Um.... no.... in a court of law heresay evidence is not allowed, and this stuff you're getting from random online clippings is most certainly heresay evidence.

If you're reduced to citing random online clippings from a forum to support your arguments.... perhaps you should abandon that argument and try arguing some other position.

 

It IS speculation. Look up the word in a dictionary. lol

Here is some more speculation: How about if Bonzi had told JVG to "f off" that JVG could have just suspended him for "conduct detrimental to the team"? Unless you want to speculate that JVG allowed Bonzi to save face and allow him to just leave for "personal reasons". But I am thinking you aren't going to go that route, because that doesn't fit the rambling psychopath personality that some try to assign to JVG.

In a court of law, you would be Colin Ferguson.

 

I also love how allegedly the Spurs wanted to sign and keep VSpan after Parker's recommendation but then released him when they found out he signed a binding contract w/ the Greek team.

Talking about something making absolutely zero sense..........

 

You are JVG aren't you?

 

That maybe speculation, however, the weight of the evidence bears on JVG's entire tenure with the New York Knicks and 4 years with the Rockets in which we are all well aware of his idiosyncracies since they were reported in several newspapers and internet websites.

 

What the hell?

Is anyone else seeing this?

He says that first this story says Van Gundy barred Span from talking to his mommie and that it was crazy for DD to consider it.

Nowhere does it say he could not talk to his mom. NOWHERE did it say that. It said the coach didn't want her calling about Span leaving the team while the team was on travel. It NEVER said he could not talk to his "mommie."

I said it was saying that his mom couldn't talk to him relating to his leaving the team while they were traveling, is that not EXACTLY what it said?

What the hell?