V-Span might join Spurs after friendship with Parker

Throwing more Gasoline on the fire lol.

Source...'same source as before' Mebbe this guy has a direct line to Vspan? LOL

KillBill_Pana

I just wanted to say since people here wonder, Billy did say since he has opt out after one year his agent gets some other camp invites.

Billy get camp invites for next year from Mavericks of Dallas, Pistons of Detroit, Raptors of Toronto, Suns of Phoenix, Kings of Sacramento, Jazz of Utah, Warriors of Golden State, Wizards of Washington, Grizzlies of Memphis, and Spurs.

Billy say he definitely give preference and priority to Spurs as this was already worked out with them and his agent.

But he also say that Kings, Mavs, Jazz, Pistons express much interest to his agent.

Billy tell me that Joe Dumars tell his agent if things don't work out in Spurs camp Pistons offers him contract if he wants to come back to NBA. Pistons he says like him very much.

But Billy say he by far want to play with 4 time champion Spurs most over any other team. Billy also say he like Rick Adelman and Rockets teammates very much. He like Carroll Dawson and Daryl Morey but he is not sure he can trust them after some things that happened over playing time and what positions he play.

They tell him one thing then coach does another.

He says he talks with his friend Peja much about Adelman. He knows Peja from Greek League. He says Peja tell him how great Adelman is. He says Adelman very nice to him on phone and tells him he should be starting point guard last year.

He says Yao and T-Mac asked him many times to stay with team and Adelman said he would plays over Alston and James.

But Billy says his mother too ill and Rockets because of Van Gundy treat her too poor. He has too many bad memories with Van Gundy.

He says he would like play with Rockets and Yao and T-Mac and Battier very much with Adelman but he says Rockets fans hate him.

Believe he says something about being McGrady of Athens or something and about crying about his mommy over playing time.

He says this just come from coach and is all untrue. But Rockets fans believe and make fun of him too much. He is sorry to say he cannot play there again because of this.

So Billy basically tell me in end, next year he play in Athens with Greens, San Antonio with Spurs, or Detroit with Pistons. He play for one of these teams.

He says Spurs also tells him next year better for them because they have some players who will be free agents and not re-sign with them.


I find it hard to believe that Adelman would tell him he will be starting PG with no track record in the NBA and that Rockets now have James, Brooks, Francis, and Alston. He may have said, you can compete for starting PG but I doubt he said you are going to be starting PG.

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You miss interpret what I try to say. Billy say Adelman tells him on phone he should be starting last year. He simply have no explanation for why Rockets coach not play him. Coach Adelman watch lots of tapes and tells him and Rockets GM that if he was coach Billy would have been starter.

Coach Adelman say if he would have been coach he would play Head as backup two guard instead of backup play maker like coach Van Gundy. He would play Lucas as 3rd play maker like Van Gundy did. He would play Alston as backup play maker instead of Head, and Billy to be starting play maker instead of Alston.

Coach Adelman tell Billy he now use James in Head role and still use Billy as starter at play maker and Alston as backup. This was Billy say "probably month or so" before Francis even traded from Knicks.


Billy also say that Rockets mainly draft Brooks because Billy's agent tell them he will not play for them again due to treatment of former coach and fans misconceivings about him.

He says Rockets not draft Splitter so Spurs can get him, then Spurs trade Scola to Rockets since Rockets not take Splitter. Rockets then gives Billy to Spurs and takes Butler off their hands.

This why Rockets first draft Brooks, also why they take play maker. They not even know Francis be available at this time. Rockets very happy because Scola can come to play right away and Splitter cannot. Scola NBA ready and Splitter just his backup.

Adelman not keeping Lucas anyway so they draft Brooks because Rockets like him more. So with Billy and Lucas going and not knowing Francis become available they need new 3rd play maker.

 

That is not the point, the point is that they both whined their way into a better situation, thus the analogy.

V-Span wants to be in Greece this year to sort out his mom's issues, that is admirable.

Let's see if he decides to come back in a year or two....I think he will.

BEXCELLENT,

You keep on posting the truth.......all those things read as 100% spot on...to anyone not blinded by hate.

And, ain't it funny how many teams think he can play...but I am sure a few fans here on the BBS know better.

And Billy, not all Rocket fans hate you......just the one's that can't see the forest through the trees.

DD

 

It's funny to realize that Jeff used Head as backup pointguard and Billy was supposed to be a shooter. . Jeff is really sick.

 

Wow, v-mac really thinks he's a superstar

 

A lot of those people who believe that American Basketball is superior can be found on the USA National Team! They also think they don't have to play hard to beat the USA select team and so far they've been wrong about that too! Here's to Brooks and the the select team kicking the A squads butts in practice. That's right I said practice!

 

He only thinks that he can play better than other point guards in the NBA.

Jeff made him one though.

 

i loev how all this great insider info comes out now...and from such reputable sources.

luther and billy really didnt play together. are you saying luther wasnt a shooter? b/c those 300+ 3pters made sure do look like shooter numbers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusional_disorder

 

did i say that head is not a shooter? jeff is that you?

 

Do not care VSpan anymore, he is no long on this team, but he is a good person, and a player who also helps us to get the PF we really need.

 

Yeah, like a guy in a mall overhearing a cell phone conversation about the Rockets acquiring Steve Francis....

Just because it is not a newspaper does not invalidate the content, if you had been here longer you would know better.

I think he is saying that Luther was used as backup PG when he was clearly a SG and conversely Billy was used as a backup SG when he is clearly a PG.

DD

 

So JVG would not allow Billy to make phone calls and Adelman promised V-Span he would start over Alston and James?

I've heard it all. This source is simply not credible. They sound like Paul Bunyon stories.

 

Um hmmm..just like insider information like this one that Justice reported on?

*adding more fuel to the fire

Feb 19th, 2006

http://blogs.chron.com/sportsjustice/archives/2006/02/breaking_news_v.html
Breaking news: Van Gundy, Dawson feuding!
I read it in The New York Post so it has to be true.

Peter Vecsey, who knows more about the NBA than any other reporter on earth, had an interesting tidbit at the bottom of his Sunday notes.


Sources say Jeff Van Gundy and Carroll Dawson are no longer on speaking terms. A reenactment of the ruthless friction that transpired in New York between Van Gundy and Ernie Grunfeld, which led to the firing of the Knicks team president. I'm informed Van Gundy is so angry with the personnel Carroll has provided that he recently told free-agent pickup Stromile Swift, ''Would you please ask to be traded.''

Is this one of those things you read and say: ''This can't be true.''

No, it's not.

It might also be exactly true and not mean something apocalyptic is about to happen.

Because NBA coaches go a little nuts during the season. They hate their teams one day and love them the next. They demand that a player be traded on Monday and change their minds on Tuesday.

General managers have to walk the fine (read: impossible) line between placating the coach and steering the team.

Van Gundy is a brooder in the best of times. A season like this surely wears on him.

But did Dawson go get Stromile Swift without checking with Van Gundy? I don't think so.

Will Van Gundy quit? He'd be leaving a lot of money on the table, but he has already walked out on a team once in his career. His brother, Stan, walked off the job in Miami earlier this season.

Maybe there's something in the Van Gundy DNA that prompts them to quit when times get tough.

If he left, there'd be another coach -- maybe even a better one -- ready to coach a team with Tracy McGrady and Yao Ming. Phil Jackson, who chooses his teams carefully, was interested in the Rockets last summer before re-signing with the Lakers.

Jackson, like a lot of people, was excited about the possibility of coaching McGrady and Yao. Maybe Van Gundy will be as well after a couple of days off.

 

The source may or may not be credible, but to completely discount it is silly. Why would someone make up that stuff?

It might be exaggreted, but it might also be accurate......

You never know.....

Cue the X-files music....."The Truth is out there"

DD

 

To believe that a coach of a professional team would prevent a player (a grown man) from making a phone call, to his mom, on his own time, is what is silly DaDa. Only a truly biased person would believe otherwise (I guess so it supports your theory about JVG?).

I am going to go out on a limb and say there is no way Adelman went as far to promise V-Span a starting position over Alston and/or James just to get him to say. I feel comfortable making that declaration.

 

1. Well it could have been near game time or near practice when he wanted to make a phone call. Ya never know bout the call thing. Yeah if he was in his hotel room, he could have simply used his calling card and dialed home.

2. The poster did not say that Adelman promised him a starting position. Only that he said that he should have been starting instead of Rafer last year and that James was more suited to the 2 guard than the 1.

 

Maybe i'm reading this wrong, but I thought it sais his mom wasn't allowed to call the team while on the road in relation to Spanoulis leaving the team.

In other words it reads to me like his mom called the team and asked for him to be released for leave while they were on the road and Van Gundy didn't want her calling them like that directly.

Believe it or not that's almost exactly what the Chronicle implied happened.

Did not the Chronicle say that his mom called the team several times because of her depression and asking him to be relieved to come see her?

I could have sworn there were HUNDREDS of posts and a big clamor on the board because of the Chronicle reporting just that.

So I am thinking you are failing to read something here properly.

 

"His mother even came to US to Houston and the coach would not let him call to talk to him when she was depressed and the team was traveling."

You are simply making stuff up. "Well, it could have been near game time or practice". You really think JVG had nothing better to do than to keep an eye 24/7 on V-Span to make sure he doesn't call his mom?

I am pretty sure players are free to call whenever they want outside of game time, practice time, teem meetings or shoot arounds.

I can't wait for the story to come out where JVG teased V-Span by holding his cell above his head where V-Span couldn't reach it.

"He says Yao and T-Mac asked him many times to stay with team and Adelman said he would plays over Alston and James."

 

It didn't say that. Besides, V-Span's mom is not under contract. I am sure she can call her son whenever she wants.

I think you are making insinuations from a rambling translation to fit your motives.

I am pretty sure the CBA and the NBAPA protects V-Span if he needed to leave the team to take car of his mother.

JVG allowed Bonzi a couple of leaves for "personal reasons". Are you saying he wouldn't allow V-Span the same priveleges?

 

LOL Now you've gone and done it. You used the worst possible example to defend JVG. Bonzi was allowed to leave for "Personal" reasons. Is anyone here dumb enough to believe that? Bonzi was allowed to leave for "Personal" reasons cause they were having problems in the locker room and even Yao was reported to have said that much. "Personal reasons" - Let me translate for you - YOU DUMB MUT$&%^#**K, GET OFF MY TEAM!!! DON"T Come back until you learn how to play. (ie JEFF VAN GUNDY WAY). ALSO DON"T LIP OFF TO ME!!

Don't forget Yao stating that Cuttino Mobley was benched with reason sprain to left ass cheek.

 

And certain Euroleague fans think that merely WISHING those leagues were as good as the NBA makes it true. Sorry to break the news to you, BUT...

Of the 9 guys you claim "could certainly have played in the NBA," only two of them actually did: Batiste, who had a 1-year career as a way-down-the-bench scrub for the Grizzlies, and Spanclueless (and we all know what a sterling year HE had).

Kennedy Winston went undrafted, was signed as a free agent by Memphis, and failed to make the team.

You call THAT "NBA quality players"? WTF?!?

Dude, your self-proclaimed expertise and your vaunted basketball knowledge grow more questionable with each post.