V-Span might join Spurs after friendship with Parker

Thank god! So sick of hearing about this, hopefully this will end the VSpan crap

 

So, it looks like all the main players got what they wanted in the end. Yippee.

Spurs to V-SPAN:



I can has cloze thred now?

 

Why stop there - he could sign a max deal, actually hey so could I. Of course these two things are both rather unlikely. Teams aren't that sold on handing out the full MLE to barnyard wonders who show they can't play in the NBA then cry their way back home to the farm cause they miss their mommy's spinach pie. Give it up already.

 

It would be pretty classic if the Rockets signed him after one year, we trade Francis for Mac and get Steve back, we trade James for Alston and get James back and then we trade Span for Scola and get Span back.

Hey you never know, Span had a problem with JVG not CD or Morey

 

lol...I just read this but I'm not sure what to make of it. It's either the biggest bit of rubbish this century or it's inside dirt. Therefore I will post it with the caveat that I did not write this and yes, take it with a grain of salt. If it's not real, it's hilarious reading anyways.


http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74752&page=7&pp=26
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KILLBILL PANA

Billy tell me that he signs with Pana contract before Spurs released him, he signs it just a little after Rockets get beat by Jazz. He did change his mind and wanted to play with Spurs after talking to Parker. Spurs want him and told him they want to keep him.

Billy have made up his mind originally to leave NBA because of Rockets and Van Gundy and also because they would not allow him time with his mother. His mother even came to US to Houston and the coach would not let him call to talk to him when she was depressed and the team was traveling. Billy says that Van Gundy kept making fun of his language and accent in practice and how he ask what coach is saying sometimes.

He says Van Gundy tells him he needs translator like Yao but that he won't allow one this time because he doesn't want them around practice. Billy speaks English but sometimes he have problems with some things being said and some terms, he ask question and instead of being told answer by coach Van Gundy makes fun of him and accent.

He says then the coach would tell him that's why he rides bench, because he doesn't have time to explain things it's easier to just make him sit there than tell him things.

It makes it hard for him to get plays and Van Gundy told him he couldn't play point guard. He says Rockets coach make many players angry, himself, Yao, Mutombo, Wells, Snyder, Lucas, Novak, Howard, Tsakalidis, Hayes.

He says Rockets coach always let T-Mac, Head, Alston, Battier practice how they want. He never yell at them in practice and always talks nice and gentle with them.

He always yell at other players and always on them like crazy. He act worst with Billy and Yao. He says himself and Yao and Lucas works on game all day all time and always coach be so mean to them like a crazy dog. He says the coach always calling him, Yao, Hayes, Lucas names and calling them out. He says T-Mac never ever get this abuse.

So Billy went ahead and signed the contract with Pana before Rockets traded him. Because FIBA has rule against this the team could not send the contract in until he was released by Rockets. But from when the contract is signed it is binding.

Rockets then trade Billy to Spurs. Pana still cannot send contract in until Spurs release him due to FIBA rules, but because Billy sign contract already it is binding he play with Pana.

So Billy and his agent and Pana work out where Billy can opt out of his contract after one year if he wants to play with Spurs and if they still want him at that time.

Only reason he not going to Spurs training camp is because he already signs contract with Pana and that's binding.

Spurs like him more than Vaughn and Beno. Parker he says told Buford he likes his game very much. Also he says Lindsey tells Spurs he is much better player than Vaughn or Beno.

Billy tells me he stays with Pana this year, gets his mother back in good health and him and his brother get a situation set up for her help.

His goal for year is Greek league title, Greek cup and Euroleague title. He sets goal to be Greek league MVP, playoffs MVP, Euroleague MVP and Euroleague playoff MVP.

He will work on his game all year very hard, especially ball handling, turnovers, NBA range 3 point shooting out to 8 m he says and he keeps using weights. He then try to make Spurs next year as FA at Spurs training camp. He says they already give him invite.

 

Can't wait to see him play against the Rockets in the preseason, for and with a team that will utilize his skillset.



And Sam, V-Span will get offers, because GMs and players know that he can play, even if you don't.

I will have the last laugh on this....you will see......

BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!

DD

 

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/47679/20070820/panathinaikos_brings_back_spanoulis/

 

let the false dream die. its just a sick obsession now. seek help

 

What proof do you have of that, other than exaggerated statements in the wake of Greece beating USA and preseason statements by Yao and McGrady before they had a chance to really observe him, and now random posts by forum goers?

I think the evidence is more clearly on the side that no one thinks he can play, otherwise he wouldn't be reduced to salary cap fodder.

What do you define as "last laugh"? If he succeeds in the Euroleague, is that good enough for you? Or does he have to come back to the NBA and succeed? I would put 100:1 odds on the latter at best.

 

Frankly, I don't care what Vspan does. I still think he shoulda stuck it out and given it a try with Adelman. He had his opportunity. But this plan of his, to sign with the Spurs after one year is very clever if true. He makes big money in Greece and can come back and join the Spurs as a roster player in 2008. Nevertheless, it's still very underhanded of him.

What I find more interesting is JVG's behavior. If true, and I'm betting that it is because of what we saw of JVG through the years of putting players in the doghouse and with comments from ex players Francis and Mobley, then it would explain much as to why Bonzi walked off the team right before playoff time.

Nobody walks off a team no matter how bad you suck or percieve yourself to suck right before the Championships. It's in a player's competitive blood to play for the title. For someone to walk off the team in that situation you're either a.) A major headcase or b.) you are really pissed off, don't want to contribute and you walk off in protest in order to make a statement to the organization.

 

In order to truly get the last laugh, he has to do it on an NBA stage......whether that is next year, or when his club team joins the NBA....but I will have that laugh (or get laughed at).



Smiting, if you are actually asking what proof I have that he is going to be a good player, there is no way of saying one way or the other, he looked horrid at times and great at others. I contend that with playing time he would have less of the bad times and more of the good......but there is no proof that it will happen......I just believe it will because of the way he plays the game and attacks the rim.

Lord knows, I don't always get it right (see Dan Langhi) but time will tell on V-Span.

Yep, JVG dug his own grave in Houston. He did his best, it just wasn't good enough, and as a chemistry experiment, he is not very good as a coach.

IMO, in today's NBA you have to be a better manager of people, and JVG is great with the right type of person, but seems to clash a LOT with others....whereas other coaches are better at dealing with multiple personality types on their roster, and they are the ones that succeed the best.

Funny how all these statements are coming out now about JVG and how he treated the team......or certain players.......what an ASS.

DD

 

Spanoulis just walked away from the San Antonio Spurs. Your hypothesis burns. Plus most of the crap you have been posting is fake. So those two things are kind of mega super duper mother freaking insanely ironclad dispositive. Erase your post before god strikes you down.

 

I would bet the Spurs and VSpan have an agreement whereby if he is to return to the NBA, the Spurs have first dibs on signing him. I bet it was a prerequisite of releasing him from his contract.

 

Wait a minute, that post wit the "inside info" is contradictory as hell. One minute it says he couldn't announce the contract with Pana because he belong to the Houston Rockets. Then says he would have joined the Spurs this year, but his contract with Pana is binding so he has to play there this year?

Why wouldn't they announce the signing if it was binding anyway?

I thought he couldn't sign anywhere because the Spurs had his rights and contract, according to FIBA rules?

If the Spurs had not let him out of his contract how would have Pana's contract have been binding?

Too much double talk for me.

 

If it is true then....

Maybe they signed it with the expectation of getting out of the Rockets contract, and then the Spurs as well, then had a change of heart after playing against Tony Parker and tried to get out of it.

It was a bad move to sign a contract prior to being released, but to get a deal where he can opt out after one year is sheer brilliance.

If other NBA GM's like him (and I bet they do) he will be sitting pretty one year from now as the best Euro player not in the NBA, who is a complete free agent.

Can they do that? Maybe make it to where he can only opt out if he joins the Spurs, is that legal?

DD

 

Well I did say to take it with a grain of salt didn't I?

 

Nobody walks off a team no matter how bad you suck or percieve yourself to suck right before the Championships. It's in a player's competitive blood to play for the title. For someone to walk off the team in that situation you're either a.) A major headcase or b.) you are really pissed off, don't want to contribute and you walk off in protest in order to make a statement to the organization.

I am of course referring to Bonzi Well and not V-Span here.

 

This sounds very believable. We already know JVG yells at Yao like crazy, as this has been reported many times before. We know JVG lets Tmac do whatever he wants and never criticizes him, but always just says I believe in tmac's greatness any time tmac is playing like crap. We all know JVG yells at vspan a lot too. Frankly, I don't know why you would be skeptical about this report.

 

Pretty sure side agreements like that are not legal under the CBA - anyway it is irrelevant as barnyard ball is likely going to be his future, not the NBA.

THat is what happens when you suck and cry your way out of the league. Sad. Wait, no, sad isn't the word I'm looking for. Funny. Yes, that's it. Funny.

 

It's a handshake agreement on good faith similar to a when the Cleveland owner offered a long term contract to Carlos Boozer and him and his agent had to agree to accept the deal in order to be released from his then contract. The agent and Boozer violated the gentlemen's agreement.

The Spurs could obligate VSpan and his agent in exchange for giving him his release. If Vspan and his reps do not abide by it, the Spurs can blackball him around the league along with not negotiating with the agent on future deals. Just a gentleman's agreement based on trust and good faith. Don't see that it could be any sort of violation.