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V Divac: Yao Ming Will Thrive to Become Better Under Adelman

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by pryuen, Jul 6, 2007.

  1. yao_fan_2007

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    How am I making stuff up?

    If you read the Houston Chronicle, Franberry routinely mocks T-Mac, calling him ME-Mac.

    Again, how am I making stuff up?
     
  2. doublehh03

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    again another dumb post by you. did u know a guy named grant hill, who signed w/ orlando BEFORE tmac did?

    grant hill at that time was considered a better player than vince. considered one of the top 5 all-around players. so how the hell was he gonna be "the" guy in orlando if grant hill stayed healthy?

    the role was forced upon him when grant completely jacked orlando w/ that big deal and never stayed healthy.
     
  3. doublehh03

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    and do u read the other writers too? isn't it a conicidence that u brought up the worst journalist on the chron? :D

    he's a tmac hater since he got here. he puts all the responsibility of the team on tmac. if we don't win, it's b/c of tmac. he never blames any other player it seems like.
     
  4. yao_fan_2007

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    The point is, if a writer of the Houston Chronicles, who has All-Access to T-Mac, and knows the behind the story events, calls T-Mac "Me-Mac", what does that say about him?

    So I am not making this stuff up. JVG furthermore, after getting fired, hinted that T-Mac would fake an injury. So..again, this guy has character issues starting all the way since Toronto days.
     
  5. TheGM

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    He was using sarcasm in a blog post. How can you not understand that?
     
  6. yao_fan_2007

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    Franbury is very often sarcastic, but I've read a lot of his articles, and I do not detect sarcasm when he wrote Me-Mac. It was more Fran being a wiseass, which he often is. But not sarcasm. There's a difference.

    Yeah, he does mock readers with sarcasm, but in this case, it was not sarcasm.
     
  7. Verbatim

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    Yan_fan_2007 doesn't understand. Let him have his "opinion". It's his and he can do what ever he likes. He like Yao only. OK I get it. I'm asian too and I like Yao. I like TMac too. It's a team sport. They need 5 players. Yao is not going to win anything by himself.

    As for YF2007 going nuts defending his misguided position, at least he tries. He's not doing very well but he tries.

    TMAC is a great player and if both of our superstars stay on the court, we are going to have a great season. Yao is now 5 for 5 years getting hurt every season now. It's not good. But let's hope he will be OK next season and kick some butt, both inside and out. Of course TBack is not that durable either.
     
  8. doublehh03

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    but i would expect fans of players like kobe or even tmac or melo or perimeter players like that to care about stats.

    usually fans of big men are completely different. the reason fans like certain big men is b/c of their team oriented type of play--ala tim duncan, hakeem.

    theres a reason our fans go craziest when dikembe blocks a shot moreso than a tmac dunk.
     
  9. yao_fan_2007

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    Gee..thanks for the backhanded compliment. :rolleyes:

    When did I say Yao can win anything himself? Absolutely Yao needs T-Mac and vice-versa. I am just concerned that Yao's role will be reduced this coming season. I don't want Yao's role to change that much from the past season.

    I've stated before that T-Mac is the better player. I guess you must've missed that. :rolleyes:

    The only problem I have with T-Mac is his character, not his superb talent.
     
  10. pryuen

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    WHEN did I ever said you have to be a personal friend to be a Yao Ming fan? :rolleyes:

    And IMHO, you have English reading comprehension problem. When I said you don't know Yao Ming as a person or a player, I don't mean you have to know him in person.

    The word "know" here means

    • To perceive directly; grasp in the mind with clarity or certainty.
    • To regard as true beyond doubt
    • To be able to distinguish; recognize as distinct
    • To discern the character or nature of
    And being a fan of Yao Ming means someone that is enthusiastic and ardent in following and understanding every thing in details about him: his personality and character, his on-court and off-court activities etc. etc. etc..

    If after all these years, you still don't know (i.e. understand, in case you still can't read to comprehend) Yao Ming is a player that put team victory ABOVE his own statistics or personal glory, then you don't deserve to be his fan, i.e. what I'm saying.
     
  11. yao_fan_2007

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    Pryuen, you need to get off your high-horse. Why do you think you are qualified to say who deserves to be a fan or not? That is so egotistical.

    Do you know how egotistical you sound? How conceited? How snobby?

    Nevermind your ridiculous assertion. That is not my issue with you.

    What is becoming an issue for me is your continued perception that you alone can know who DESERVES to be a fan or not.

    You need to re-examine why you think you have that right to judge anyone.
     
  12. yao_fan_2007

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    Pryuen, I appreciate all your hard work, and I hope you continue to contribute in that way. But you need to stop telling me I do not deserve to be a Yao Ming fan. :rolleyes:

    I don't want to continue arguing with you because frankly, I like your articles. But I don't accept your judgement of me or of anyone.

    Anyone should be able to be a fan of Yao Ming without restrictions or qualifications.
     
  13. YaoFanatic

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    The problem with yao_fan_2007 is you are too hardcore of a YOF. There is no chance Yao would ever play 3rd or 4th fiddle on the team behind TMac, Bonzi and MJ. As it is even when everybody is healthy, he does get the most shots usually, if you count 2FT's = 1 FG attempt. To be so defensive about the potential of Yao getting less shot attempts next year is just a bit much. You certainly aren't helping his cause there, let alone the Rocket's cause. My guess about his stats next year is 26ppg, 54%FG, 88%FT, 9rpg, 4apg, 2bpg. That would be good enough for top 3 MVP voting as long as Rox win >55 games and make it past the 1st round. I anticipate TMac upping his numbers too as will the whole team under Adelman. It'll be a hybrid of San Antonio/Dallas style of play. maybe something like 102pts off/ 94pts def.
     
  14. pryuen

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    Well, if I have not misread what you posted earlier in this thread....all you said and all you care is: "Oh I want Yao Ming to get at least 20 plus shots every game, scored > 25 points, and be the #1 option, and I don't care whether the Rockets win or lose. If Yao Ming got ignored by the coach or by TMAC, Bonzi Wells or Mike James, and could only score under 20 points, then he should yell hell with Rick Adelman and his team mates......"

    If that was the case, then you're not a genuine Yao Ming fan; as genuine Yao Ming fans will know that Yao Ming paid the least attention to his own stats, put team victory above everthing else.......his personal glory and stats. And genuine Yao Ming fans know that as noble and humble a player Yao Ming is, he won't yell hell with his coach or team mates as long as his team wins.
     
  15. Invisible Fan

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    If Yao's role is reduced, then that'd most likely mean the team is better or are at least successful.

    What's the problem in that?

    In fact, I hope Yao plays less minutes in the regular season....
     
  16. rfila

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    That is NOT "....all you said and all you care is: "

    I can see he has followed Rockets more closely than many of those who attack him. I can also see he is more intelligent than most of those who attack him and he knows more about how to communicate in a civilized way than those attack him.

    To those who think he riuned or hajiacked the thread and attack him:You are no more a BBSer than he is.

    To those try hard to find any reason to attacck a Yao Fan: I couldn't careless about what you say.

     
  17. Pringles

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    yao's role will change, to whatever aldemen wants it too. if youre saying your concerned that yao's role will reduce, your probaly don't have to worry, but either way, every player in a team is important in a unique way that other player doesn't have. if its in the locker room or on the court, every player is special. look at juwan howard, a true professional. chuck hayes, all he gives us is defense, but he helped us alot too. even ryan bowen, he helped get the extra possesions and guarded dirk pretty well. just because the stats appears a player is playing a reduced role, doesn't mean its true.

    i would be blaming tmac too like you are, but his back is probaly one reason why he doesn't drive as much. you remember milsap? that kid would just hammer you if you have a layup. even i cringed, when i saw the replays. give him a season where he can finaly be in rest, which could be never. than you can judge him.
     
  18. Pringles

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    like you said all of us are not more a BBSer than others. we don't know if someone is more intelligent than others by just reading their post. come on, this is just about the Rockets and Yao. You could know everything about the Rockets like tinman, but know squat in reality. (no offense to you tinman ;) )
    yaofan2007 admitted he would follow another team if yao got traded, he even said he wasn't a fan before yao came. i have no problem with that, but how can he be anymore closer to the Rockets than us? we, read a freakin forum about the Rockets, we are all likely to be equaly close to the rockets.
     
  19. doublehh03

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    even blindbury has admitted that tmac has been a great teammate and citizen in his stay in houston, which is the reason les has been enamored with him.

    les cares as much about the image of the team as winning (which is why he never liked JVG).
     
  20. doublehh03

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    if yao gets that 9rpg -> 12-13 :eek: :eek: :eek: => he'll be the frontrunner for MVP.

    unless tmac goes crazy :D

    then co-mvp is fine with me :D
     

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