V Divac: Yao Ming Will Thrive to Become Better Under Adelman

Those are MVP nUMBERS...

 

WHAT A LOAD OF ****. EARLIER YOU WERE SAYING IF YAO WASNT GETING HE'S TOUCHES, HE SHOULD START POUTING AND DESTROY THE ROCKETS.
Btw, you can be a yao fan and not put the rockets or McGrady down left and right. 99% of the yao fans here have been doing that. you're the exception.

 

Calm down. No need to yell. I'm really sorry that you don't understand my views, even after clarifying my views. It's not my problem that you don't understand..so I'll let you guys alone...

BTW..I have a problem with T-Mac not because I am a Yao fan. It's not an either/or case for me. It has 100% nothing to do with Yao. I just don't like T-Mac. He has a checkered past, and leopards don't exactly change it's spots.

 

Well done, well done.

 

Checkerd past?whatever. you called him selfish right?. how is he selfish?. in orlando he might have been since he had no help. but as a rocket he is widely regarded as the most unselfish superstar in the game.the knock on him was that he was to unselfish and started passing during crucial part of games.

 

that would work too

all i want is our team to be balanced enough during the reg. season so our role players can have confidence going into the playoffs. but beyond that, i want our 2 stars to KNOW they have help so they don't force things in critical junctions but also be rested for the long haul going deep into the season.

 

And Pryuen, you do not have the right to define what is a worthy Yao Ming fan. You can have your opinion, but others also have the right to have their opinions.

Do you know Yao Ming personally? You do not know Yao Ming personally. Are you his friend? So according to you, only personal friends are allowed to be his fans? You are getting more and more bizarre in your zealous snobbery.

Once again Pryuen, we appreciate your translations of chinese articles. But that hardly makes you qualified to judge what a Yao Ming fan proper is.

 

I'm guessing Rafer is the mushroom growing in the middle of the Bonzi turd in this horticultural scenario?

 

You are contradicting yourself, Ben. First you say in Orlando, he MIGHT have been since he had no help. Then you label him as the most unselfish superstar in the game.

He was traded from Orlando because he was WIDELY criticized as being selfish, and spoiled. Why would Orlando trade a super-star like T-Mac for Francis and change? Because he had a checkered past.

Now, T-Mac supposedly changed and became more of a team player. Is that why he went on his campaign for MVP this past season? He shamelessly put his name forth as MVP candidate. Then came his infamous "It's on Me" Proclamation which was truly embarrassing, and hysterically funny.

I'm not making this up either. And you have the nerve to say he's the most unselfish superstar in the league? According to whom? I can name at least one superstar who should come before Me-Mac for that honor, and his initials are Y.M.

 

i think most normal asian fans of basketball (and if you are asian, you should be brought up w/ morals about LOYALTY to not yourself, but to your family).

in this case, the rockets are yao ming's family. in the asian culture, it's not about the individual like it is in america. that is why yao is so well-liked among the asian fans. if yao is a b**** like kobe right now, i'm sure asian fans would diss him.

but yao is a loyal guy. he would do everything adelman tells him to do as long as the team is successful.

 

again, i'm sure u didn't follow tmac closely like u do w/ yao. tmac ONLY had a problem w/ the GM weisbrod. not the entire management. not the team. not the players. not the city.

tmac went about it the wrong way and dissed weisbrod. but weisbrod LEFT THE TEAM IMMEDIATELY after the season. so tmac was right about him. he didn't know jack about bball and thus went back to hockey.

if u remembered, a few orlando fans gave weisbrod death threats for trading tmac. so tmac is still well-liked in orlando.

and again, who cares whawt tmac says about "it's all on me"

does he play like that? does he play selfish? didn't he not have 16 assist and 13 assists in 2 games? i think thats the highest assist #s the ENTIRE playoffs.

again, it's what you do ON THE COURT. not OFF THE COURT. tmac is unselfish ON THE COURT. him and yao have great chemistry. they seem to enjoy each other and back each other up.

as long as we get good role players, we will succeed.

i have no doubt yao will improve on both ends this yr. tmac will be much moer efficient. we get a PF and we're on our way to the promise land.

 

What are you talking about? Do you even know anything about Asian culture? Is that why Yi JianLi is doing a Kobe? Last time I checked, Yi is Asian, no?

Is that why Wang ZhiZhi pulled a Kobe too? What, the CNT is not Wang's "family"?

Let's not generalize.

If there is one thing I do not like about Yao Ming is that he is way too nice, and not fierce enough. But he has improved over the years.

 

T-Mac had a history with Toronto too. Toronto fans boo him everytime he plays in Toronto. T-Mac was never considered unselfish UNTIL he came to Houston. And I think that was largely a public stunt by JVG and management to re-shape T-Mac's public image for Houston fans. Sorry, but I do not really see an unselfish player. Even in Houston, he has a tendency to shoot way too many jumpshots. He speaks about "imposing his will" or whatever. If he was really unselfish, why did he say "Its on Me!"??

Sorry, I don't buy it.

 

again, is he the best fit to play with yao? even on our team, hes the ONLY guy who gets yao the ball the most and at his best spots. he's the guy who constantly proclaims yao to be the best center every damn time. he always seems to find chuck hayes even when hayes blows al ot of layups. hell, he even looks for deke to score at times.

what other superstar can u think of that would pass to dikembe mutombo?

again, like i said before, WHO CARES WHAT HE SAYS, CARE ABOUT WHAT HE DOES ON THE COURT.

on the court, he's as unselfish as any superstar in the L.

 

heck, what about October.....let's not get greedy here.

 

wtf are you talking about. I've watched him in Toronto. No one really boos him there. He didn't do anything in that city, in fact he was there so long ago that most fans don't care or remember (since there were a lot of bandwagon fans this year who know two things - yay Raptors and boo Vince Carter). The only guy they'll boo up there is Vince Carter.

And he wasn't selfish in Toronto at all. In fact, he didn't do enough since the whole team basically deferred to Vince Carter. He was their best defensive player and basically was the Shane Battier of that team. He never looked to score and always got the hardest defensive assignments. You seriously have no clue.

As for his selfishness... this is garbage. It's fair to criticize T-Mac for taking too many jumpshots but only because he should drive to the basket instead. His taking shots isn't the problem, his taking too many jumpshots is. Superstars have to take the lead and in a perimeter oriented NBA, that's just how it works.

Re-shaping his image? WTF are you talking about. In his prime in Orlando, people openly debated about who was better, Kobe or T-Mac? His image was sky high during his first few years in Orlando. Seriously, stop making stuff up. You really give YOFs a bad name and only contribute to their vilification on this board.

The guy had a career high in assists last year and is by and large considered one of the best passing superstars in the league (if not the best). Seriously, just stop now.

 

I disagree. One of the main criticisms of TMac this year, personality-wise, was that he was looking to be too much of a creator for his teammates and not looking for his own shot enough. As for him shooting too many jumpshots, that was true in that sometimes he would shoot a jumper when maybe he could have been more aggressive in getting to the basket, not because he shouldn't have shot it at all.

 

exactly, in fact, tmac would be better if he was more selfish on the court. and by that, i mean when he drives, he needs to stop kicking out and just dunk it.

but i guess he has not fully trust his back yet. hopefully next yr he will.

 

I read that T-Mac complained while in Toronto about his role. Therefore, he moved to Orlando to become "THE" guy. Am I wrong about this?

I've already read that he is booed in Toronto. He is not well liked, neither is his cousin Vince Carter.