Utah Radio Guys: "I heard Houston is interested in [Paul Millsap]"

Anything over Lin money

 

Josh Smith can finish at the rim with the best of them, BUT he's jump shot crazy. Smith has been in the league for nine years and he's not going to get any better than what he is. He's been in the east all this time and he has never consistently put up elite numbers for a season. Good player just the same but he's going to command 4 year $80 million max and Morey will only give a contract like that to a guaranteed elite player and that Smith is not.

 

Whenever I watch the Jazz on League Pass, Milsap is completely underwhelming. Don't really understand the fascination with the guy.

 

He'd be the starting 4 in a quick, uptempo offense where he'd be involved in pick and rolls constantly and would be able to dribble drive off the spot ups. Millsap is WAY more versatile offensively than PPat. It's not even close. His handle is way better, he can create off the dribble, he's a better post up player. Shooting?? We don't want our PF shooting long 2's. Millsap is very, very good shooting the corner 3. He just never gets to shoot them in Utah's offense. In fact, Millsap gets to do very little in this version of Utah's offense because everything is built around Big Al getting the ball in the post. Millsap just stands around waiting for Al to shoot it. Millsap isn't even the second option on that team. He would be the clear second option here.

Oh, and he does board and he gets to the FT line. He's way more efficient than Patterson. Only thing PPat has on Millsap is age and his head is higher up than Millsaps. Everything else favors Millsap.

By the way, PPat is neither the problem nor the solution for this team. He's a good player. That's it. He's a very good defender, a subpar rebounder, and an average at best offensive player. In spite of his performance the other night. He does not have the ability to create off the dribble. He can get hot and hit spot ups on occasion but he will never be consistently over 50% on all those long 2-pt jump shots. He's a young Juwan Howard. Just an average player overall. Not long enough to effectively cover the middle when Asik is off the court and not offensively talented enough to cause the opponent to have to gameplan and double him.

This team's number 1 need right now is a backup 7-footer that is long and knows how to defend the paint in the NBA. When Asik goes out, we have no resistance at the rim, none. Following that, the next greatest need we have on this team is a big (preferrably a 4) that can score the ball in the block, draw fouls and get on the FT line, and stretch the floor on the perimeter with a good 3-ball shot. We need a 4 that can do multiple things well offensively. PPat is not the long 5 that can provide shut down paint D when Asik is out and he's not the multi-dimensional 4 we need to take heat off our perimeter guys.

 

I don't either.

 

Rather stay the hell away from Josh Smith. He or Evans will likely be the worst contracts out of this upcoming free agency. Max to Smith? Lord have mercy for what ever idiot owner gives him that.

 

1+:grin:

 

You've made your feelings clear with your previous posts. Do you feel the need to say about 20 more times? Feel free. I wasn't asking for you opinion. I was asking the members here who had something substantive to add to the conversation.

 

I am arguing with you why he is not overpaid, but how why he is not MASSIVELY overpaid. I am not such a big fan of his, but please just be reasonable. That's what drives me nuts here.

 

1+:grin:

 

Don't believe Morey will pull the trigger this time.

 

I understand the love for him. milsap is a better rebounder than every power forward on our current roster. he is also capable of posting up and creating his own shot. wouldn't give up royce, jones, smith, and d-mo for him, but i would get rid of mook and pat instantly.

 

And you gave me a statline of Lin's that Jarret Jack has put up year in and year out who signed a cheaper deal a few years back and where as people like Mike Conley and Neslon put up better numbers and get paid the same amount.

Now Milsap will make 11-12 a year since in the NBA you have to overpay to get them

 

i would give give the max to josh smith before i would give the max to shard lewis. josh is an all star. what nba all star doesn't deserve the max? it's nba allstars out there that are underpaid as **** and michael jordan was one of them. Jordan made waaay more off of shoes and endorsements than he did in the nba.

 

I cannot agree with you more.
Jazz will accept the deal to have younger Lin + patterson. Then no chance for Rox to beat Jazz for 2-3 years.

 

LOL, bro, keywords: MASSIVELY Overpaid

One thing I want to make it clear, a player's stat is only for reference.
As I remember Morey once joked that the guy whoever created the NBA stat should be taken out and shot! Without deep understanding and inside knowledge of the game and careful interpretation of the data, those stat will fool you or any GM to make bad decisions. Enough had said. Peace.

 

MJ and Smith in the same sentence of max money? No NBA players are overpaid and just cause you are an Allstar does not mean you get max. In what world does Smith make max money with people like James, KD, Rose, Kobe and Duncan make it. Is Smith going to become one of the best play the game or position or has that potential? Smith is overrated player average offensively and just real good on the D and boards. Has little to no post game and can't shoot the ball.

 

Once again you gave me a stat line. I can tell you Lin is bad man on man defender. Average finisher around the rim with a low basketball I.Q. continues the same mistakes over and over when he gets to the rim. Average foot speed and a bad jumpshot.

 

I'm sure Morey's call to Utah was to offer Patterson and a couple of 2nd round picks from the Knicks. And Lindsey hung up on him.

 

If Paul Millsap really is the best we can do right now, then I'd rather stand pat. I mean Patterson is just about to turn 24, next month, and he's still improving. Not to mention we have other young fours with immense talent, who are also improving. So were going to improve the 4 position by sheer development alone.

So I would much rather do a small move, like move Marcus Morris for a future draft pick, and open up minutes for a guy like Motiejunas. Then settle for a middle of the road PF, in Paul Millsap.