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UT vs Colorado predictions thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by francis 4 prez, Nov 29, 2001.

  1. chievous minniefield

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    based on the talent he had and the teams he was up against, specifically which conference title "should" he have won?

    and what is he specifically doing that makes him a poor big-game coach?

    I can say that greg davis specifically abandons the run like a poontang, and that makes him a poor big-game offensive coordinator.

    what does mack do, specfically, that makes him poor? in other words, how does he specifically contribute to his team's underperforming?

    dan marino never won a super bowl. does that make him a poor big-game performer.

    I don't have any problem with people saying that UT has underperformed in big games. their record speaks for itself. but I want to know how it is specifically Brown's fault.
     
  2. Joe Joe

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    Haven,

    Thx for the correction. I got it as hearsay.
     
  3. BrianKagy

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    How silly (that's my nice word for it). It might have been the first time we ran it this year, but that play has worked all season long in any situation in which it's been run.

    It wasn't a ****ing Hail Mary. We didn't bank it off the scoreboard.

    I'll say Texas 20, Colorado 16.
     
  4. Smokey

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    My prediction:

    With orange lenses - Of course we are going to win. We have better players. We are playing at DKR North. We already beat CU once, and the Buffs showed us everything they have vs. NU. We match up better with CU than NU did. It will be a close game, but we will prevail. Our talent won't let us down.

    Without orange lenses - I wouldn't be surprised if Texas blows this. After all we're Texas. Mack Brown can't coach. Lets see some excuses - 1) inexperience, 2) we didn't show up, 3) CU is a really good team, 4) the crown at Texas Stadium hurt us more, 5) start crying and say this will never happen again. Where have I heard these before. Cluck..Cluck..Moo

    With orange lenses - I've seen the tower all orange before, but I have never seen it light up with "1" on all sides. It's going to be a beautiful sight. Too bad those staying overnight in Dallas will miss it.
     
  5. Puedlfor

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    Hmmm.

    Colorado's strength is the rushing attack, which destroyed a suspect Nebraska defense last week. You say Colorado could've beaten any team in the nation last week, I disagree, only if they were playing a team with a defense as excrable's as Nebraska's, perhaps a John Mackovic coached team would suffice.

    Texas' defense is not suspect. I think the Texas defense will contain the Colorado rushing attack, and force Pesavento to the air, where they are not as effective.

    On the flip side, Colorado's defense is porous.

    Texas - 34
    Colorado - 6
     
  6. Chance

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    Horns 27 Buffs 25

    The Buffs will cover because Simms sucks in emotional games.
     
  7. Rocketman95

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    I could be wrong, but I don't recall the shovel pass getting us more than 5-6 yards the rest of the season, and where the **** was any kind of play like that against OU-one of our biggest rivals and the #2 team in the nation at the time?

    We should've won the 1999 Big XII championship (he told the team to be quiet when they were pumped up before the start of the second half in the A&M game...out of respect for the people who died on the bonfire...I"m sure you dick suckers can come up with some sort of an excuse why we lost the NU game, just like you'll come up with one when we lose this game), and he should've won a few ACC championships when he went into the FSU game undefeated only to get beat 12-0 or something.

    Just like the coach is responsible for how the players play, he's also responsible for how the coordinators call the game. If he can't see that consistently calling 2 yd. passes, running up the gut, or not playing Benson is not working, then he shouldn't be the coach.

    CU 27 UT 16
     
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  8. Manny Ramirez

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    I think that Colorado will be on a letdown after the emotional high of smashing Nebraska. Texas wins 28-10.

    DVauthrin: I didn't see that thing about Miami, but it worries me if they are overconfident. I have no doubt that they can beat anybody, but as Oklahoma State proved last week, when you are overconfident and take your opponent lightly, you'll be sitting at home saying to yourself, "that should have been us in the Big 12 Championship Game (Rose Bowl)".

    And all the Texas fans who have posted in this thread, please don't take that last statement as one that is saying that Texas is lucky to be in the Big 12 championship game. Just take it as "anything can happen if you are cocky".
     
  9. Smokey

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    I predict a low scoring defensive struggle in which the Horns talent will make up for their lack of coaching.

    Texas 13
    CU 10

    I don't want to think what will happen if we lose.
     
  10. Puedlfor

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    Cedric Benson has several big plays off of the shovel pass, heck, even Brett Robin has a 40-yd touchdown with a shovel pass.

    Oh, and Texas hasn't given up 27 pts in a game all year, we certainly won't give up 27 to Colorado, unless our defense suddenly reverts to our defense circa 1997.
     
  11. Major

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    <B>I could be wrong, but I don't recall the shovel pass getting us more than 5-6 yards the rest of the season</B>

    We've run the shovel pass once per game for the last 4 or 5 games and it's gotten us somewhere between 10 to 40 yards each time. Sometimes it goes to Robin, sometimes to Benson.
     
  12. Nuggets4

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    SUSPECT?!? Um....if I heard correctly, Nebraska gave up only ONE 100-yard rushing game all season. Suspect? Get real.

    You guys better hope your team isn't as cocky as some of you are. CU's a better team than you think. They beat the #1 team in the BCS by 26 points. I guarantee Barnett is making the team watch footage of the game against you guys over and over and over from earlier this season. CU wants this game. They deserve to be in this game.

    It's gonna be one hell of a game. CU 21-17.

    CU will go to the BCS bowl. :D
     
  13. Smokey

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    Yeah, I believe Robin scored on a shovel pass vs. Mizzou. Play went for 39 yards.
     
  14. chievous minniefield

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    I disagree. even as a Texas fan, I think it as clear that Nebraska had the much better team that year. our offensive line was a joke. all I can remember is visions of Major getting dropped again and again.

    so you're specific example of what mack brown has done to blow a big game is him telling his team to be reverent of people who died? . . . um, nope, I'm not persuaded.


    which ones? did he ever have the more talented team? which of his north carolina teams should have beaten FSU during the thick of FSU's dominance?

    maybe, maybe no. . . this, to me, is your strongest point, but it's not about "big games". his coordinators are picked for an entire season. now, I'm as onboard with firing Greg Davis as anyone on this bulletin board. but I think saying that Mack Brown is a poor big-game coach is just unfounded.

    again, I don't think he's a game coach, period. I don't think bobby bowden is a game coach, either. they're recruiters. recruiters don't blow big-games anymore than they coach their teams to tactical victory against in small-games.

    are you prepared to say that Brown is a genious against the New Mexico State's and the U. of H.'s? What about against Colorado?

    if he's not a genious on those days, then he's not a dumbass in the big games. point the blame where it belongs: Greg Davis.
     
  15. Rocketman95

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    You will all be crying like little Hakeem b****es when we lose on Saturday...I'll be saying I told you so.
     
  16. chievous minniefield

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    Nuggets4--

    what reason do you have to think that Texas won't pass all night long on your defense?

    it is much harder to defend against a 2-dimensional offense than one that an only run the option.

    nebraska's defense got exposed as overrated in the game against the coloradoes. frankly, nebraska didn't play a very tough schedule, either.

    looking back, they didn't defend against a miserable OU offense very well. who else did they play? K-State? please.

    I'm not saying Texas had a tough schedule. they didn't. I'm just saying that Nebraska wasn't as good as everyone made them out to be. they beat the oklahomos, and everyone was ready to bend over for them.

    man, do I wish Texas could have played Nebraska. I think UT would've killed them.

    but again, what reason do you have to believe that Texas won't light up the scoreboard against your defense. Nebraska scored 30-something on y'all. let's not forget that, despite your offensive explosion, that's not a very good day at the office for a defensive unit.
     
  17. Puedlfor

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    Want to bet?
     
  18. Smokey

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    If we lose, DeLoser needs to give Mack an ultimatum. Get rid of your buddy Greg Davis or your *** is grass!

    I'm serious. Texas has the weapons but can't fire in big games. If we lose it will be because the offense sucked.

    I can't wait to see our gameplan. Mack said you don't hold anything back in a game like this. On the field Mack, on the field!

    Hopefully, it won't have to come to that.
     
  19. Rocketman95

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    Sure, if you're a big enough idiot to bet for Mack Brown and all the big games he's won.
     
  20. gr8-1

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    Are you this pessimistic about everything? Be here to eat crow when we (I mean UT) pulls this out. I will eat crow if we lose and say Mack is not a big game coach. Right now, the jury is still out. I just don't want to hear "beating a team that snuck into the big 12 championship that you already beat by 34 is NOT a big game."

    As for nugzfan, you be here also. I would not be so confident to bet against a team that beat you by 34 6 weeks ago. You guys were on a hot streak then also.

    R95, why are you emotional about this issue ? Why call us D!ck suckers? It's like you're rooting against the team. You did graduate from UT, didn't you?
     

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