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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Rocketman95, Nov 13, 2004.

  1. Cohen

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    :rolleyes:
     
  2. Cohen

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    And Utah still has to beat BYU, eh?
     
  3. hoang17

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    You can make the same call with Oklahoma. They were getting killed by the aggies last weekend before a&m let them get back in the game. They shouldve lost the week before that against OSU in a nailbiter. They only beat UT 12-0. If we had even a decent aggresive approach offensively, things might have been different. They have had countless games where they squeaked by with a victory. Its college football. Anything could happen. USC almost lost to Stanford in the very beginning of the season.

    The only team that took care of business every game was Auburn. Can you name some other teams that didn't have any nailbiters?
     
  4. RocketFan007

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    Anyone else here Mark Mangino's comments after the game? He said the only reason that UT won was because of "dollar signs" and the "BCS." To his credit, he later apoligized, but that is still uncalled for. Hey Mark, if your defense could make a tackle on 4th and 18, this would all be a moot point.
     
  5. Earl Cureton

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    yea, I saw that on College Gameday. Here a few more from this link

    "You know what this is all about don't you?'' Mangino said. "It's called BCS. That's what made a difference today. That's what made the difference on that call in front of their bench...dollar signs."

    "Normally I give credit to our opponents, but I'm not going to do that today. Our kids outplayed (Texas) and should've won the game.''

    "Ten thousand bucks? Hey, it's 10,000 bucks,'' said Mangino, alluding to the potential fine. "I've got a team to fight for. I'm not going to be pushed around or let this university be pushed around because we're not the big spenders or because we're not the big BCS team in the league."

    He later issued a semi-apology but no doubt some sort of reprimand is headed his way.
     
  6. bigtexxx

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    The offensive pass interference call was highly questionable. This call single-handedly allowed UT to come back in the game.
     
  7. bigtexxx

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    Thanks so much for your in-depth analysis. I'm convinced your belief is correct! :rolleyes:
     
  8. Smokey

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    How did I miss the refs blocking for Young on 4th and 18?
     
  9. King of 40 Acres

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    As a sidenote... did anyone catch the game see the foam shocker that was on television. I think FSN thought that the "shock 'em" was referring to KU shocking UT, and not another meaning.:D
     
  10. vj23k

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    Much like the way UT beats Ri...ya know what? It's pointless.

    And...no, they wouldn't. They haven't faced a back like Cedric Benson nor a linebacker like Derrick Johnson. Texas plays the pass well, and that is Utah's strength. Dominique Dorsey is the best back that Utah has defended all year. Who? Cedric would carve that defense like it were the day after Thanksgiving.

    I know someone already asked, but, seriously, where the **** were you and your buddy last weekend?

    If you've seen Reggie McNeal since the Utah game, you know this isn't the same Aggie team. Re-match, and this game is a close one, possibly going to A&M.

    It looks bad for a BCS berth, but it's possible.

    Utah plays a pretty solid team in BYU. A loss, and they, of course, plummet.

    Cal plays Stanford, a rival as well as a pretty good team(Gave USC a run, I believe). A loss, and they also plummet.

    Michigan will without a doubt jump up to #7 on Monday. They play OSU, and, with the help of the coach's poll, could jump Utah.
     
  11. junglerules

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    This is what I hope for most- Michigan jumping Utah in the BCS. I don't know how likely it is, but I would venture to say it's possible. I guess we'll see how the polls and everything else shake out. I'm glad the Utah score didn't look too dominating. People who wake up and vote may not be overly impressed, and won't allow Utah to climb too much in the polls.

    About Mangino's comments- I agree that that pass interference call could go either way, and was probably not something that's called very often. However, you can't say that KU got overly-penalized or anything all game. They were actually only called for 3 penalties at 23 yards, while Texas racked up over 100 yds in penalties. Furthermore, if Mangino wants a scape goat, I didn't see any BCS officials giving up long Vince Young runs in the 4th qtr, nor did I see any BCS officials shanking crucial punts, either. His team had the game won, and they couldn't finish. The pass interference call was big, but it hardly decided the game.
     
  12. wrath_of_khan

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    Since that fluke USC game, Stanford is 2-5. They're actually a lousy team. I wouldn't count on us (Cal) losing to Stanford at home this year. Not gonna happen.
     
  13. Cohen

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    And since you take every opportunity to try to belittle UT, I'm really convinced by your unbiased opinion. ;)


    My impression of you is that you should be much more secure. You're bright, workout, sounds like well employed, why have a hang-up over a University? Doesn't that seem beneath you?

    Fact of the matter is that UT is one of the winningest ... sportswise ....Universities in the nation. So what? That makes it fun to watch games when you're a student there or alumni, but what's the other significance? None. Right? So why not move on to something that's worthy of your time?
     
  14. BrianKagy

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    With only a few exceptions where your hand is forced, you have not shown the ability to objectively discuss anything as it pertains to the University of Texas. At least in D&D, you wear your right-wing nutjob colors proudly. Your laughable act of "Oh, I've looked at Texas objectively, and after much objective analysis, I have objectively decided (insert negative decision here)" is just dumb.

    UT lost to OU. There's at least one team ranked near UT in the BCS standing that is unbeaten. Given those facts, I'm quite certain that there are absolutely no circumstances under which you would admit you think Texas deserved the BCS at-large bid over the other team. If it weren't Utah, it would be Boise State. Or Louisville. Or now, Wisconsin. Or Hitler State. Anybody.

    I think you should save yourself the time and effort of crafting posts that bear a remote appearance to those of an objective fan-- post more like you do in D&D, in other words-- and anytime you feel you disagree with UT fans, just post "I'm bigtexxx, and I do not like UT". That will save the few here who aren't familiar with your schtick the trouble of reading your posts.

    Either that, or just go away and wait until baseball season, when the opinion of Rice fans matters.
     
  15. 4chuckie

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    I wouldn't be 100% sure the BCS would take Cal over Texas. Cal may have a better team but let's remember Texas will travel much better than Cal.
    At the same time the Rose Bowl will probably stick to the traditional Big 10-Pac 10 game so assuming USC goes to the Orange Bowl they will likley take Cal unlesssomething strange happens.

    So if you were going to forecast Bowls now:

    Orange: USC - Oklahoma
    Rose: Cal - Big 10 Champ
    Fiesta: Auburn - Utah
    Sugar: Boston College/WVU - ACC Champ

    So if Utah stays in the top 6 Texas needs a great matchup for the Rose Bowl to appear. The Big 10 Champ (Michigan if they beat OSU or Iowa/Wisconsin possibly) has one bid, but Texas fans would have to hope the Rose Bowl would grab another team to play there besides Cal. Problem is none of teh other options looks particulary sexy.
     
  16. junglerules

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    Well, if Cal finishes yop 4 in the BCS, it won't matter. They'll earn the bid automatically. So, that's really why I'm hoping Michigan can leap over Utah into the number 6 slot in the BCS, so they aren't automatically invited as well. I hope the SOS for a big 10 team, plus the rise in the rankings, will help Michigan jump them, leaving that small window of opportunity open for Texas.

    I think what could really be compelling to some people is if OU drops from 2 to 3 in the BCS behind Auburn, and the possibility of a UT-OU rematch exists. Ok, maybe it'd be compelling to me, rather than the entire country. :) But I'd love another shot at them.
     
  17. halfbreed

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    The Big 10 SOS is non existent this year. Very mediocre conference. There really isn't a dominant conference this year like in the past. But i would LOVE another shot at OU.
     
  18. RocketFan007

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    Utah moved ahead of UT in the new AP poll today. Utah is #5 with Texas remaining at #6.
     
  19. Htownhero

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    The real question is, why isn't Auburn ranked above OU?
     
  20. bigtexxx

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    ...just as my objective analysis predicted. But what do I know, "I'm bigtexxx and I do not like UT."

    hilarious.
     

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