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Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by Rockets1616, Aug 17, 2011.

  1. BigBird

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  2. SacTown

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    Brando2101 is in the 5% of Texas fans who still support Mack Brown. Mack is a great recruiter, everyone gives him that - be he's an awful coach. As a matter of fact he doesn't coach at all. CEO.
     
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    To be fair, in his day, he was considered one of the best offensive coaches in college football. But it's been so long since he's actually been a play calling, game designing coach that he's lost that credibility. I think Harsin and Diaz probably are good coaches, but they need guidance and they're not getting it because Mack is too worried about the business side these days. I've been a supporter but it would appear that it's time. It's time for Mack to move permanently and officially into a business/ambassador role for the school and let the team move on to someone who can get it back where it should be. UT should not be a middling, 7 to 9 win, Holiday Bowl-bound team every year.

    Mack is a legend in Austin and all ways will be. They should make this move before it becomes a necessity because the team is back to where it was before he got here.
     
  4. Brando2101

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    5%? you're a moron. Awful coaches don't win national championships, conference championships have consistent 10 win seasons and win 8 bowls in 10 years. Bad coaches **** up big games. He beat USC, he beat Ohio St twice, he beat Michigan and he put his team in positions to win in all of those other games. He's also a good recruiter and seems to be penalized for that. It would be cool if you said one intelligent counter point to what I wrote. This is coming from the guy who thinks everyone hates Reggie Bush because they think he was a disappointment as the 2nd player drafted in the NFL behind expectations that he is one of the best backs in college football history. Did you even graduate from UT? Are you 11 years old?

    News flash. Fans on a niche internet website don't represent one of the top 5 largest fan bases in the country. That poll has 500 votes. That represents .5% of the amount of people that can fit in the UT stadium for one game. Read a book about statistics... or just read a book.



    Vince did not do it by himself. He was NEVER a good passer. That showed itself in the pros. He just had consistently open receivers and a very very good tight end. He also had 3 backs that could have started for most NCAA teams which gave him way more room in the middle of the field. People forget that in 2002 Mach was credited with recruiting a National Championship level class. In that championship game the defense STOPPED the USC which also had one of the best offenses in college football history.


    Mack also helped build a new cycle of recruits into a national championship team 4 years later. If they would have gotten better than the 3 star Blake Gideon they would have been a big 12 championship win away from a national championship in 2008.

    You are absolutely right to point out the hypocrisy in giving Saban and Carrol all the credit in the world even though they win with top recruiting classes as well.


    Texas isn't magic. The air isn't magic. The field isn't magic. Being better than 90% of college football is SOMETHING TO BE HAPPY ABOUT. They have been the 2nd best team in the history of the big 12. They should fire their coach because they weren't number 1?


    and opps on writing Jaxon Shipley. Obviously meant Jordan.
     
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    Oklahoma just scored on us again.
     
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    troll town got you good dude. the only topic he truly cares about is lebron james.
     
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    he was leading the nation in passer rating going into the usc game. i think he finished 2nd or 3rd. in the pros he managed to go 31-19 (while taking over 2 awful teams mid-season) and had a 95 QB rating his final season starting. for whatever reason he isn't in the league, not being able to pass doesn't seem to be a good one. off the field stuff seems to be much more important.

    they were open because defenses were scared to death of vince young. the primary receivers on the 2 rose bowl teams were freshman in 2004 and sophomores in 2005 and i don't believe any of them ever did anything in the nfl. the best one was limas sweed, a sophomore on the 2005 team, and he barely did anything in the nfl. i don't think any of them are still in the league.

    thomas was a very good college TE. and he had great hands. but again, we're talking about a guy with 93 catches in 7 nfl seasons.

    we did have good running backs but the best of them, jamaal charles, was just a freshman on the national title team. and cedric benson's career didn't take off until vince became the starter and everyone started watching vince on the zone read and let ced get 8-10 yards because they were scared vince would take it to the house if he got free. those guys would have suffered the same lack of running room that everyone not playing with vince at Texas has suffered over the last decade.

    and even the offensive line, while it looked good almost certainly did so because no one wanted to blitz or bring too much pressure for fear of vince escaping. i don't believe any of them are in the nfl or ever had more than a cup of coffee in the league.

    so while there was certainly talent on the 2005 offense, it didn't have much business being a 50 ppg offense (especially with greg davis calling plays) without a phenomenal talent who did it as much "by himself" as anyone can on an 11 person team where obviously the other 10 guys have to do at least something to make it work.


    i actually thought the D played pretty well in that game but that doesn't change the fact that that stop was the only time in 5 possessions in the 2nd half that usc didn't score a touchdown. vince still needed 467 yards of offense to barely eke out the win.
     
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    I miss Muschamp
     
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    Why is Texas ranked 25 after getting creamed by OU last week? They don't look like a ranked team at all.
     
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    BCS Rankings. I think the computers still have Texas ranked. Human polls don't (in the top 25).

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/bcs
     
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    Horns are undisciplined
     
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    Manny looks like he has given up.
     
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    This is the most pathetic thing I've ever seen. Worst defense ever.
     
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    It's sickening to watch. Most overhyped defense I've EVER seen in college football and I've seen a lot.
     
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    Manny diaz is making 650k a year.
     
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    Baylor's defense is worse that UH and Texas is not far behind. Looks like a C-USA game.
     
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    FIFY ;)
     
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    Natalie Portman at horns game.
    God is good
     
  19. Brando2101

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    9 football fans out of 10 can't tell you how the passer ratting is formulated. It's a bunch of different stats that are weighted differently and put together. OPS is very easy to understand. Here is a fact. As a pro VY had 46 TDS AND 58 INTS. That's not a passer rating. That is a hard stat and it's awful. The guy was in INT machine meaning he is not accurate at all. He was lucky to break 60% on passer ratting.


    The success of a player in the NFL is not a statement on how good he was in college. My point about VY in the pros was to show specifically his ability to pass the ball was never that good. He just had great receivers. Was Troy Smith not a very good college QB? How about 1000 other players?


    Cedric had more TDs in 2003 than 04 and that was when VY was barely playing. What does it matter if Charles was a freshman? He was still good and he played on the team and in the championship game. In reality, all of the Texas offensive players were great. The LBs had to spy on VY which helped the receivers but the receivers and tight end also opened up routes for vince. VY didn't by himself make that offense one of the best in college history. That was a fantastic team with a fantastic line.


    Come on dude. I guess you aren't a Texans fan? Kasey Stuffard Jonathan Scott, Lyle Sendlein and Justin Blalock all went to the NFL. Sendlein and Blalock both have good careers.
     
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