Strong just isn't a good coach. Poor leadership, poor in-game adjustments, poor coaching overall. He just doesn't have it. Next.
You aren't getting a coach with an elite pedigree to walk in and take over UT. There are very few coaches with sustained success. Coaches that have hopped; like Nick Saban and Urban Meyer are rare and not going to UT. That leaves getting flawed long term coaches with success like Les Miles or you are going to get a successful coach from a smaller school. . My point was that the idea that the high level boosters at UT have created a toxic or unappealing environment isn't something I pulled out of thin air. Hell, even the reports out today of boosters pressuring for the firing of Strong, coupled with past comments of top tier boosters are not going to be looked upon positively by perspective coaches that have options. UT isn't unique in this regard, Notre Dame has had their own problems. As far as "nothing to add"; you have added a whole bunch of nothing.
Here's your compilation of what the sources are saying tonight: http://www.burntorangenation.com/2016/11/19/13689180/charlie-strong-fired-texas-longhorns-football
Haha Finebaum? Are you serious? That guy has no idea what he is talking about. Strong didn't fail because of the boosters and some "toxic environment."
In basketball, both of the last two coaches were exactly who they wanted. In football, Mack was exactly who they wanted. They picked him over hot names who were interested (Gary Barnett was the popular one back then). They've only hired one coach since then, so I don't think that suggests a trend. If they get Herman, that will be the hottest name on the market.
You do understand this happens all the time, right? Coaches regularly have success in one place and can't duplicate it elsewhere or on a bigger stage.
I would actually very much welcome a guy like Les Miles. You can say he has won with Saban's players, but he did win. And aside from trying to beat Saban, he's been pretty consistent. He doesn't have the best offense or QB year in and year out, but I do think he can be the change the Horns have been looking for. Lets just say even if there was pressure on Strong, there's still no excuse you can use from anywhere to defend how he lost some of the games he has this year or even last year. There are some of the worst losses this program has ever encountered. The boosters are correct to voice their opinion, and any school with any group of boosters would have done the same thing given the results in front of them and the future ahead. Now people are eluding to the fact that whoever gets this job next will do good because these are Charlie's players and they're going into their 2nd/3rd season. That's so far from the truth. These players have been held back if anything. A new coach will probably get more out of these guys than anything else. I'm sure some of them will actually be relieved that they might have a chance at going to the NFL in the future.
I'm not going to mince words: hiring Les Miles would be downright idiotic. He couldn't run an offense at LSU, so you expect him to miraculously figure it out at Texas in a conference that requires at least a good offense for you to win games? That's insanity. Part of the reason Charlie failed is because he didn't know how to run an offense that could be successful in the Big XII, but give him some credit: he partially figured it out this year. If you think Les could just pick a good coordinator, take a look at his past selections and think again.
Harder to do it in the SEC. He would succeed in the Big 12 IMO. Agree to disagree. I know he isn't a favorable choice, but I'd take him given his experience.
Chad Morris is interesting due to his state ties and great offensive mind but I doubt that hire would go over very well for a variety of reasons. Fedora would be underwhelming but you could do worse. Les Miles is Les Miles. Chip Kelly isn't coming. I'd go to Jimbo with a huge offer but that's a huge long shot as well. So that really does leave Herman as the best option.
Took a while, but I'm off the Strong bandwagon. Losing to a 1-9 Kansas is not acceptable for me. Bye. Hello Herman...
Coaches from top-tier programs almost never jump to another top-tier program because you're already well positioned. No one from a Michigan/FSU/LSU/OSU/Alabama/etc is going to jump from their school to another. They leave by getting fired or going to the NFL. So coaches to bring programs are generally one of 4 types: 1. Hotshot coordinators (Stoops, Muschamp, etc in the past) 2. Hotshot young coaches at non-P5 schools (Herman now; Urban Meyer, Tressel, etc in the past) 3. Coaches of well-performing P5 schools (Mack Brown back in the day; today, that would include coaches at places like Colorado, but it seems like a lot of those are fluky / one-year-wonders / etc this year) 4. NFL retreads (Pete Carroll, etc) There are always lots of options out there - it's just a matter of finding them. I don't think recently fired guys often get hired to a premier gig, so guys like Briles/Miles seem highly unlikely. They tend to have to take a step backwards and work their way up again. Herman is probably the favorite and most obvious name, but there will be plenty of other people to look at. Guys like Saban, Fisher, Harbaugh, etc are and always will be unattainable, and that has nothing to do with UT or its politics/boosters/etc. There's just no reason for those guys to leave a great situation to rebuild another one into what they already have.
Most of the Baylor folks are assuming that it's Herman to Texas while Morris lands at Baylor. I think we drive up the salary and contract length for Herman. His interest of Baylor was leaked for that purpose alone imo
Charlie Strong is a good man. He stands for the all of the right things and I truly wanted him to succeed because I knew he'd run the program the right way if he won. He inherited a weak roster that was further thinned during his purge and losing Ash in the very first game completely turned things upside down. But ultimately, his loyalty to Watson/Bedford and slew of bad hires did him in. Watson was not a good hire to start and keeping him after year 1 set the offense back 2 years. Similar situation to Bedford and Strong just waited too long to take over. With that said, Strong will leave the roster 100% better than Mack did. There is a ton of talent on this team and the next coach will have so much youth with experience to work with. Hope nothing but the best for Strong and whoever is the next guy up at UT.
Agree with all of that. Strong did a lot of important things for the program in terms of fixing the dumpster fire underneath the surface. He's really set the situation up well for the next guy. Turns out he's just not very good at the actual coaching/hiring aspects of the job, at least not in the Big12 style of play. Great at recruiting, and great at building culture/accountability/etc that was much needed.
I still think there might be a behind the scenes run at Chip Kelly. Herman will be the #1 choice but Kelly would be a pretty great fit here. He can deal with the high dollar and high maintenance alumni (Phil Knight) and his offense would play very well in Texas...where he's done a fair amount of recruiting in the past. I feel bad from Strong. All accounts are that he's done a great job at changing the culture and is known as a good guy. That clearly doesn't move to the field on gameday, though. It's unfortunate, really. He belongs at an upper mid-tier type program where he can win consistently and the odd bad season won't get him canned...like what he had at Louisville.
Anytime somebody starts a comment like this, it means the rest of the post will describe how incompetent the person is. I see this on the job all this time - "So-and-so's a good guy....but" Strong is incompetent.
