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UT and OU Reaching Out to Join SEC

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by MadMax, Jul 21, 2021.

  1. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost clean your room bucko
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    Don't be so sure about that.

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    Washington State
    6-Year Grad Rate: 60.3%
    Average SAT: 1073
    Acceptance Rate: 75.8%
    Carnegie Status: R1
    AAU? No

    Oregon State
    6-Year Grad Rate: 67%
    Average SAT: 1195
    Acceptance Rate: 75.8%
    Carnegie Status: R1
    AAU? No

    Arizona
    6-Year Grad Rate: 64%
    Average SAT: 1235
    Acceptance Rate: 84.6%
    Carnegie Status: R1
    AAU? Yes

    Arizona State
    6-Year Grad Rate: 63%
    Average SAT: 1245
    Acceptance Rate: 84.8%
    Carnegie Status: R1
    AAU? No

    Utah
    6-Year Grad Rate: 58%
    Average SAT: 1262
    Acceptance Rate: 62.1%
    Carnegie Status: R1
    AAU? Yes

    Colorado
    6-Year Grad Rate: 64%
    Average SAT: 1253
    Acceptance Rate: 78.4%
    Carnegie Status: R1
    AAU? Yes

    Baylor
    6-Year Grad Rate: 75%
    Average SAT: 1293
    Acceptance Rate: 45.3%
    Carnegie Status: R2
    AAU? No

    Texas Tech
    6-Year Grad Rate: 63%
    Average SAT: 1155
    Acceptance Rate: 78.4%
    Carnegie Status: R1
    AAU? No

    TCU
    6-Year Grad Rate: 78%
    Average SAT: 1250
    Acceptance Rate: 47.1%
    Carnegie Status: R2
    AAU? No

    Oklahoma State
    6-Year Grad Rate: 58%
    Average SAT: 1167
    Acceptance Rate: 70%
    Carnegie Status: R1
    AAU? No

    Houston
    6-Year Grad Rate: 61.3%
    Average SAT: 1225
    Acceptance Rate: 65%
    Carnegie Status: R1
    AAU? No
     
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    I see, but those schools would be closer to the bottom for Pac 12 schools. Simply adding them and not offsetting it with above average schools would still overall lower the academic quality of the conference. Maybe if 1 of the 4 schools was UT, then they'd be willing to take Baylor and TCU.
     
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    Now you're throwing out rules you just made up in your head for no good reason. Lulzt.

    Arizona State is in their conference. They don't care.
     
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  5. TheRealist137

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    It makes complete sense though. In a conference with Stanford, ucla, cal, usc, Oregon, and Washington, why would those schools want to dilute the academic reputation of their conference by adding schools that are not up to their standard?
     
  6. Milos

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    Why ..?
    For the same reasons they did it a few years ago by poaching Colorado & Utah
    Broader TV market coverage, brand expansion, etc

    The Big 10 seems to be the only major conference genuinely interested in maintaining academic standards ... and they have been thoroughly dominated by the dumbasshole Buckeyes
     
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  7. DonnyMost

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    Because ESPN/FOX tells them to.
     
  8. rockbox

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    As far Dallas and Houston, they are really split up between Texas and OU in Dallas and Texas, ATM, and LSU in Houston
     
  9. DonnyMost

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    No **** those schools have more fans (not LSU though lulz) in those two markets than TTU and UH. That isn't the point.

    If TV sets are the name of the game (they won't be for long but that's a different subject), Houston and Texas Tech (make no mistake, DFW is their primary market) would expose the PAC to more than any other schools left available. It's the same reason Rutgers and Maryland got B1G invites. Those aren't national, powerhouse programs, but they sat on top of an absolute buttload of new TV households to put B1G teams on in front of.
     
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    What tangible negative impact would there be?
     
  11. DonnyMost

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    Academically, nothing. We ain't come here to play school. People acting like handegg has any impact whatsoever on the research partnerships that are the lifesblood of these institutions is silly.

    The problem is that it would clearly lower the per-school intake. That's it, end scene.

    The PAC feels no pressure to move because there is no pressure that anyone else will come in and grab the B12 leftovers (none of the ones they would want, anyway).
     
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    teach them 99er
     
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    Looks like the SEC will vote on tomorrow with UT/OU holding special meetings on Friday. Wrapping this up a week after the leak would be pretty remarkable.
     
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    They've been working at this behind the scenes for over 6 months. Texas and OU are confident everyone wants to sleep with them, but they aren't stupid enough to make a move like this without ensuring the timing was right. The only school that didn't know about this was ATM. LOL
     
  15. DonnyMost

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    This is extremely doubtful.
     
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    Based on their AD’s comments, they knew realignment was a possibility (duh) but had no idea they were that far along. Not sure if just saving face now but this caught A&M completely off guard as noted by their comments and actions.
     
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    I look back at the timeline, and I see a lot of words attributed to Ross Bjork, but I see no video, or audio, or written statements. That seems weird given that SEC media days were going on during that time. I wouldn't put it above the Aggies to shoot from the hip about things, but you'd think they would put out something official instead of just letting speculation and rumor fly.
     
  18. gucci888

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    Statement from Bjork admitting being caught off guard at media days. Loftin and his “gentlemen’s agreement,” A&M calling an emergency special meeting with “contemplation of litigation against SEC,” even their president called the last few days “challenging.”

    Anyways all that has seemingly passed so moot point but all the reports indicate A&M was kept out of the dark for the most part and shooting from the hip when the news broke.



    https://president.tamu.edu/messages/statement-on-sec-expansion.html
     
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  19. DonnyMost

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    Thanks for the vid. Helpful.

    Anyway -- the idea that A&M were the only folks in the room unaware is not really plausible to me.

    I'm guessing that, if A&M didn't know, then neither did most if not all of the other schools.
     
  20. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Can you imagine the fights between Austin and Baton Rouge douchebros? How many sons of Lawyers are going to get sucker punched?
     
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