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USSC decisions

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Jun 15, 2020.

  1. Andre0087

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    Next, the workplace...

     
  2. AroundTheWorld

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    I agree with Vivek.
     
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  3. basso

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    Barack Obama Sr, went to Harvard, and his son to Columbia. neither were descended from American slaves.
     
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  5. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    So glad to know what one young former "staffer" of an immense political operation puts on twitter!
    I am so much better informed for having read her
    completely idiotic opinion.
     
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  6. Astrodome

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    I guess this week proved that this supreme court isn't half bad after all.
     
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  7. Deckard

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    That's right. It's more than half bad.
     
  8. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Today's SCOTUS decision ends racism in the admissions process and restores the spirit of the 1964 Civil Rights Act which outlaws discrimination based on race.

    If we want to lift up underperforming blacks' educational performance, the answer is not to gift them unearned spots at Harvard. It's to keep the bar high and motivate them to hit it. Raise the bar -- don't lower it. And this way, when underrepresented minorities go to elite schools, the stigma of whether they got their because of affirmative action is no longer present.

    Affirmative action has been in place for decades and yet we still have major gaps in racial performance. It's not working. We need solutions at the local level. I've said this many times, but the black culture needs to prioritize education and not basketball and music. They also need more nuclear families with fathers in the home. This is the #1 problem facing youth today. The stats tell the story.
     
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  9. JayGoogle

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    Really tired of people taking this quote and then basically ignoring everything else MLK said, he was FOR reparations and AA lol.

    So please, let's not imagine that MLK would be for this, far more evidence he would be against this. Who knows. The man was killed far too soon and oh yeah, was seen as a radical when he was alive, only lionized after death.

    “A society that has done something special against the Negro for hundreds of years must now do something special for the Negro.”

    “It’s like having a man in jail for years and years and then you suddenly discover this man is innocent, you go to him and say, ‘now, you are free.’ The man has been unjustly jailed for 35 or 40 years, and you just put him out of jail, saying, ‘now, you are free.’ You don’t give him any bus fare to get to town, no money to buy any clothes, no money to get something to eat. This is what happens to the Black man in this country.”

    https://inmotionmagazine.com/king2.html


    So can you guys please stop using that one Dr. King quote when he was explicitly for Reparations and AA?
     
  10. JayGoogle

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    You know, I didn't even look at the link of that website, my lord.

    But hey, maybe now after this ruling these people will be able to have no doubts about their black professionals! I doubt it, but maybe, right?
     
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  11. Andre0087

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    Uncle Thomas owes his position to his color...the rest of that dumpster fire of tweets I don't know about.
     
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    Isn't it racist to call him "Uncle Thomas"?
     
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    It's looks like just some blue check musklord rando trying to whip up a mob to do deepfake pron some person who swiped left on him.

    I think that's about 90% of Twitter these days.

    Though I don't know, i was banned for posting that vaccines don't have microchips
     
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  15. Andre0087

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    If MLK and Malcolm X were alive I believe that's one of the few things they'd agree on...it's not.
     
  16. Amiga

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    I don't think they are in conflict.

    The first statement suggests that universities are allowed to consider how race has influenced an applicant's life, particularly in terms of experiences with discrimination or sources of inspiration. This means that race can be taken into account as part of a holistic evaluation of an applicant's background and experiences.

    The second statement states that universities cannot establish unlawful systems through application essays or other means. This means that while race can be considered, universities cannot create discriminatory or unfair systems that solely rely on an applicant's race for admission decisions. The emphasis is on ensuring that the evaluation process remains fair and does not lead to racial discrimination.

    In summary, the first statement acknowledges the permissible consideration of race, while the second statement highlights the importance of avoiding unlawful and discriminatory practices.
     
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    yes it’s racist to call him that. I wouldn’t engage with that low intelligence poster.

    The person who owes their position to their color is Katanji Brown Jackson. Biden only considered black women for the role! Nobody else!
     
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  18. Amiga

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    I agree that the stigma grounded in racist views, such as the belief that black individuals are not as intelligent, is unlikely to dissipate because of today Court's ruling. In your previous point, you also highlighted the challenges that minorities face in gaining consideration for admission to these schools. However, even considering these challenges, stigma can still exist based on perceptions of individual performance and merit. The notion that certain racial backgrounds may gain admission to schools without meeting the same academic or merit-based standards can create doubts about the abilities and qualifications of individuals from those racial groups. Over the long term, this merit-based stigma is likely to diminish with the Court's ruling today. I would speculate that, in terms of stigma associated with racial-based admissions, the stigma grounded in racist views is a minority, whereas the stigma based on merit is more prevalent.
     
  19. bigtexxx

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    not only that, but Obama’s white mother’s family actually owned slaves! So could you say Obama benefitted from slavery?

    let’s not forget that Obama isn’t black. He’s biracial and it is time to retire the Jim Crow style “one drop” thinking.
     
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  20. Amiga

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    My understanding is that universities consider a variety of factors for admission. It is not solely based on race, but also takes into account factors such as gender, socioeconomic status, first-generation college status, nationality, and even geography. The goal is to have students from diverse backgrounds and locations contribute to the campus community.

    How does society and the Court justify eliminating race as a factor in the admissions process while still using other factors as proxies for experience. Why is race not considered a proxy for experience, whereas the others are?
     

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