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Use of Yao: are we doing what we said

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by littlefish_220, Apr 3, 2009.

  1. motionsiknes

    motionsiknes Member

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    No, i think there is only two options.

    1. fire adelman.
    2. Trade Yao.

    Yao's game and Adelman's philosophy just don't mix. I am not choosing a side since both have the + and - .

    All I know is Morey must have a lot on his mind. :(
     
  2. BrooksBall

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    I remember that. The problem is that it only lasted a handful of games. We've seen this before in years past. Yao will be noticeably more aggressive around the basket for small stretches then revert to the soft shots.

    There are several issues like this with Yao where he fixes an issue for small periods of time then reverts to his old ways. Other examples are getting a hand up to contest mid-range shots and protecting the ball from weakside help defenders.

    Yao is our best player but he's flawed in ways that require more scoring help from our supporting cast. We don't have other players that can consistently produce when Yao is off. Artest and Wafer are currently our best secondary scorers and that isn't good enough.

    Yao also needs help on defense at times because of his lack of mobility. Scola is the man and he works his butt off but he also suffers from a lack of quickness and it's especially noticeable on the defensive end. As much as I love Scola's game, we would benefit a lot from an athletic, rebounding, shotblocking big playing next to Yao.
     
  3. SuperStar

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    Don't know why everyone is blaming the coach of the month. Were you guys surprised that the Rockets lost to a better team on the road? Rockets are simply not talented enough to compete with the Lakers. You could have the best coach in the world and it wouldn't of helped. I don't know any coach that really knows how to use Yao since he has so many weaknesses. I don't think Yao knows how to use himself at times.
     
  4. Lonestar

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    The boss definitely wants to keep Yao without a doubt

    The boss wanted to have a good offense .... The reality is sometimes Rox have, however JVG did have some good offensive games too while without losing the defense
     
  5. T-Yao

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    market wise, fire adelman...imagine how many fans they are going to lose
     
  6. Marcus Bryant

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    better defender in Alston :D
     
  7. leebigez

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    A poster created a threaed about this and some thought he was wrong. I can see it and anyone watching can see it.
     
  8. leebigez

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    Brooksball, how long have I said that about the man next to yao?
     
  9. Bleeding Red

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    He can't use Yao effectively because he let the scrub PG dribbling out the clock and heaving up bad shots or ending up turn it over. Facts our guards are scrubs.
     
  10. Marcus Bryant

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    the only reason why to trade yao is just he doesn't fit Rick's requests?
     
  11. Yao4REAL

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    This team just don't ****ing never learn...they just don't go to Yao every single time for some reason. They talk about going to Yao and work it from there. But every time i watch the game, i see them pass the ball around as if doing something else. I mean...when is this team going to understand that their best chance of winning ANY ****ING game is going to Yao inside?? When i see team not fronting Yao or trying to deny Yao the ball, i am like what the hell is this team doing?? Is this team afraid that too much going to Yao is going to hurt the team?? Seriously...why the **** they don't go to Yao every single damm time?? YES, i am talking EVERY SINGLE DAMM TIME!! If they truly want to win EVERY ****ing game, just pass him the ball every single damm time until the other team deny him the ball, then and ONLY then you do something else. But if the other team don't front Yao and make it difficult and you don't pass to Yao?? Then you're stupid....from teammates all the way down the coaches!!!

    I see bullshyt plays like Brent Barry passing around and turnover the ball and Brooks driving inside and turnover....or Artest trying to create something when nothing is there and getting himself blocked. I am just sick of it...especially when you have Yao that you can rely on every single time. I believe this team can be really good if they want to be ...but because of stupidity, they might not be going far.
     
  12. Bleeding Red

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    You reading Yao's mind.

    "From the first minutes of the game until the last minutes, we did not run our plays well," said Yao Ming, who took just 12 shots, scoring 16 points and getting 10 rebounds. "We did not execute well. We said that from the first day of the season until now. In two weeks, the playoffs will start. We're still not executing well."
     
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    Remember when Yao used to get more than 11 shots a game? I don't...at least not since Brooks was the starting PG. Maybe, just maybe, if Yao, with his piddling 54% FG gets more shots or is more of an offensive ofucs than Aaron Bricks, the Rockets would have a better chance against elite teams. Maybe. Or you could go back to defending Adelman's plan of using Yao as a decoy so Ron can jack up all the shots he wants because he's shooting a sizzling low 40s from the field. Yeah.
     
  14. ibm

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    ^^can yao be more direct and blunt?

    knowing what kinda person and player yao is, i'm almost certain he's not necessarily referring to the # of touches or shots he himself gets. more likely, he's worried about those boneheaded 1-on-1 plays.

    maybe he is talking more straight behind the closed doors, but to say things in public still has a different effect.
     
  15. fuzzy88

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    Yao is a nice Chinese guy, what can I say? He was taught not to be confrontational since birth.

    This is the coaches' fault - don't care if he got coach of the month or the year or the decade. The coach manages the game, from game plan, adjustment, players' minutes, and so on. We all know Yao can't play 40 minutes and be effective. We all know Yao can't run up and down. Phil Jackson knows that, hence forcing Gasol on Yao continuously, and strategically put in Mbenga to pound on Yao. A tired Yao at the end of the game is a blessing to the opponent, and Phil played it to the tee. Rick, on the other hand, still had no clue.

    It was just so unbelievably stupid.

    We know Morey is super smart. If this keeps going this way, I'd say RA is a goner after this season, unless we go all the way to at least the Western Final (which I don't think we will).
     
  16. ibm

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    i don't care what he's been taught since birth. he's been in the states for 7+ years and he should've learned those unsaid rules of the nba.

    he's been taught chinese since he's born. so what? i hear his english isn't too shabby.
     
  17. Jerry36

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    The people on this board need to wake up and smell the coffee. If Yao was a dominant player he would have no problem getting the ball. What the Rockets need to do is go out and get a superstar with a will to win and let Yao feed off the superstar.
     
  18. Jonhty

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    rick, like many of us, just realized yao cant be relied upon too much and forcefeeding him is stupid. so he tried to mix things up. it's not that bad really. shaq at the age of 36 has a better case for getting more touches... and he plays with nash... the pg you probably all want.
     
  19. SuperStar

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    Whichever star you bring in they will automatically take the most shots on the team because Yao is the type that will defer to them. Yao never demands the ball even when he has a good shooting night. IMO the guy just can't play with another star.
     
  20. professorjay

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    Yao needs more touches and he should be taking the most shots. Adelman has to reign the team in, get everyone to make a more conscious effort, but Yao also has to demand the ball more. He's supposed to be our best player, but the team, including Yao, aren't acting like it.
     

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