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use Hayes and Andersen together against Portland

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by durvasa, Oct 30, 2009.

  1. rockets934life

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    Yea true that, I was thinking if they try and play Scola 1-1 then he can just do his assortment of moves to get the ball in the hole however if they double Scola he is good enough passer to find the open shooter like Boozer can.
     
  2. ibm

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    he can't - not against the bigs portland has.
     
  3. RocketRaccoon

    RocketRaccoon Contributing Member

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    Then you must be suggesting that Aldridge will float out to cover Andersen when he's hitting from 15 and out, leaving Oden and Hayes under the basket, again.

    Well, crap. I'm back to step one again.

    Another thought: Andersen will PULL Oden out on offense and Hayes would PUSH Oden out on defense.

    We're back to durvasa original idea: Andersen/Hayes vs. Oden/Aldridge, and I STILL like it.
     
  4. Noob Cake

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    New game plan, give Lowry the ball on each possession. Continue until Oden fouls out.

    Lowry has the ability to generate bull**** free throws by basically running into someone's body.
     
  5. Xsatyr

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    I think Oden is more of a threat than Andersen. Aldridge is not the only guy who can contest perimeter shots of Andersen. Portland has plenty of players with length and long arms to do that. So his ability to shoot the three is insignificant against a team like Portland. So now for an occasional three your giving up too much on defense.
     
  6. rockets934life

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    True but how many teams have the length and just pure athletic ablity that Portland and the LA Lakers do? I am sure there might be one or two other teams but most teams don't have the big men these two clubs do.

    Also note he killed the Lakers in game 6 last year until they adjusted and used there length in game 7 did they shut him down like Portland did Tuesday.
     
  7. pmac

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    Oh my...I had to take a deep breath after reading that. I haven't seen anything that would suggest Andersen defends anyone better than any of our bigs.

    Andersen is not a better defensive option...he will stretch the defense and maybe there's some value in that but the big guy hasn't even looked interested enough in defense to be a factor yet.

    If we're going to concede rebounds anyway why not just go small. Sub in Budinger for Scola and let Ariza guard Aldridge. LA is a jumpshooter anyway so you can probably have some success with that matchup similar to the way wings defend Dirk. Then, on offense, Ariza can drive right into Aldridge and get him into foul trouble.

    Also, Hayes defends the centers because of his strength. Sure, Oden and many of the leagues centers have little offensive talent but they are big. Put a weaker guy on them and they will just turn and dunk...it really doesn't take much skill.
     
  8. larsv8

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    We need to keep Hayes on Aldridge, because he flusters the hell outta him. Scola on Oden, Battier on Roy, Ariza on Webster, and Brooks on Blake. Scola might need some help on Oden, so maybe Brooks or Ariza can cheat over to pester him.

    Make Oden and Blake beat you!
     
  9. the_hustler

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    I agree with you..

    but I would play Hayes on Oden.... Hayes is very effective against LMA.. but Oden is just terrible when it comes to holding the ball.. Hayes, on the other hand, is very good at stripping the ball.. also.. I noticed that portland is feeding Oden a LOT in the past two games.. so if I were coach.. I will play Hayes on Oden.. generate turnovers .. and run!

    and also.. I think Scola can play LMA decently.. not great.. but just sufficient..

    and did you guys watch Portland-Denver..? I thought Webster was very good in that game!
     
  10. larsv8

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    This is where I disagree. Everytime Scola plays LMA, he gets torched and I mean literally shooting 80% for Aldridge.
     
  11. Chamillionaire

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    wouldn't scola + anderson be better, i mean scola plays better in the paint than hayes does offensively at least.
     
  12. Xsatyr

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    That interior defense looks great...
     
  13. Deckard

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    Did you watch the playoff series against Portland? Scola wasn't "torched" in every game. In fact, he did pretty well, at least as I recall it. In the first game of this season, Scola was clearly not up to speed. I expect a bit different result tonight.
     
  14. durvasa

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    We'll see what happens tonight. I could be eating my words, but I'm just curious to see how it would work.

    Its not a good defensive matchup, I agree. But I really think we need a big with 3-point range to pull out one of their bigs from the basket. We couldn't do anything last game with Aldridge and Oden down there.
     
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    How about just go small with Ariza and Battier together as the 3 and 4 (maybe either stick Budinger at the 2 or go Lowry-Brooks together again)? Portland spent a good chunk of the game with Travis Outlaw playing PF, no? In such a single-big lineup, Ariza or Battier at the 4 would actually be a better matchup than a more conventional lineup with Andersen and another big.
     
  16. Bob Sacamano

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    Yeah, as a bench player, his plus/minus was +49.2 per 100 possessions last season. Talk about making your teammates better.
     
  17. pmac

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    Yeah, that's what I said in post #47. If you want to stretch the floor and concede rebounding it seems like a better option to just go small. The blazers only play jumpshooters at the 4.
     

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