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USC [-8] vs. Texas

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by reggietodd, Dec 28, 2005.

  1. The Cat

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    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/bowls05/bowls?game=rose

    Actually, if you look at all of America (instead of the small minority that places bets), 47% of more than 360,000 expect Texas to win straight up. That's a pretty slim minority... almost 50/50.
     
  2. Major

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    This reminds me a lot of the Patriots-St. Louis superbowl, by the way. The sportsbetting majority (myself included) had no idea what they were talking about picking St. Louis in a blowout (double digit favorites, I believe). NE winning had nothing to do with them playing the game of their lives. They were simply the better team across the board.
     
  3. bigtexxx

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    People vote much smarter when their money is on the line. Futures markets have proven to be a much more accurate source of who will win a game or election than polls have.

    Bottom line is there is good reason that USC is favored in this game by more than a touchdown. That is clear to everybody except for longhorn fans. Period.
     
  4. bigtexxx

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    LOL. Truly delusional. Put your money where your mouth is, then. It's a clear arbitrage opportunity for you. Hell, pull out loans from the bank and really make some money if you're so sure about it.

    Don't they teach you in law school how anecdotal evidence is weak?
     
  5. Major

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    That's your entire argument? That sportsbetters think USC will win, so they will? Brilliant.
     
  6. Major

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    I have bet on the game. However, unless you're an idiot (so maybe this would fit you), you never bet substantial money on a sporting event. Vince could get hurt on the first play, and that's the end of that.
     
  7. The Cat

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    Oh really? Because this decade, I've predicted OU to beat Florida State, Ohio State to beat Miami and LSU to beat Oklahoma. In two of them (LSU and OU), I made significant money because sportsbetters as a whole bought into ESPN's hype machine. In all of them, the underdog by a touchdown or more won. Clearly, there was good reason that all three of those teams were favored... had nothing to do with the opponent being overhyped or the underdog being overlooked. :rolleyes:
     
  8. Rocketman95

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    Are you proposing a bet to Major? How do you know he hasn't put money down?

    They may, but Major probably missed that class due to him not ever being in law school.
     
  9. bigtexxx

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    Your argument is that your brain is smarter than the sportsbetters. Even more brilliant.

    I've talked about why I think USC will win the game. Two heisman trophy winners, it's in LA, they've won 34 straight games, they've beaten good teams, and they've been there before. Big game experience is huge. America agrees with me.

    UT-Austin fans need to learn to act like they've been there before.
     
  10. The Cat

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    Didn't you just say that America didn't matter - only sportsbetters? :confused:
     
  11. Major

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    Sportsbetters have one disadvantage over fans of a team, if the fan is able to be objective. They have not seen the teams nearly as much. They don't know the intricacies of the team. They are influenced by TV coverage. 95% of the sportsbetters on this game have only seen a fraction of either team's games. Making sports decisions based on the lines is just a dumb idea. You'll come out behind in the long-run.
     
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    = one and the same
     
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    The AM game is a rivalry game and a very tough environment to play in. The aggies were a much better team than they showed all year. They had internal problems and rallied around Mcgee. To say kansas is better is a joke.
     
  14. Major

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    Seems to me that Rice fans need to learn about the game of football.
     
  15. bigtexxx

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    Lines makers have seen UT-Austin and USC-west play. The line started at 6.5 or 7 if I'm not mistaken. This isn't Slippery Rock facing off against Towson State in women's lacrosse, here.

    And if you are trying to imply for one second that you are an unbiased fan in this situation, I will laugh so hard that I will snort up breakfast.
     
  16. The Cat

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    No they're not. Again, ESPN's poll of all of America has 47 percent claiming Texas will win. Foxsports.com had a poll a week or so ago where 51 percent (a majority) said Texas would win. Clearly, all of America sees this as nearly a 50/50 tossup game. Instead, you're choosing a select minority that bets. I'm not saying those opinions are invalid... but don't act like America agrees with you if all you're going to do is cite sportsbetters.

    Also, explain LSU over OU, Ohio State over Miami and OU over Florida State. All of those teams were similar or even larger underdogs than Texas this year... how on earth did three underdogs win, all within this decade?
     
  17. Major

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    That's the media perception of it. The reality of it is that the better team always wins this game. It's not a "throw out the record, anything can happen" game.

    Defining an upset as a team with two fewer wins winning the game (so a 6-5 team beating a 7-4 team is not really an upset), in the 100 year history of this game, there's been an upset exactly 3 times. Upsets happen more often in random run-of-the-mill games than this game. Neither of these teams intimidate the other, and whichever is better wins 97% of the time.
     
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    The lines that linemakers set have nothing to do with how strong they think teams in a game are. They have everything to do with what they think the general public expects. Not what they think themselves.
     
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    Um, that's hilarious. Kansas had a better record, played in the month of December and won their bowl game.

    A&M is a program in shambles. You couldn't even sell out the student allotment of tickets for the biggest game of A&M's year. That's downright pathetic. I know you're dealing with it by attempting to bash the team from Texas that's playing in the Rose Bowl, but it's really getting ridiculous.
     
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