yes i bet morey has been wanting him for 2 years. since rubio isn't even fit to tie brook's shoes. he could be our waterboy, i guess. brooks would run circles around him, as would lowry. morey does not want rubio unless it is to trade. no way he thinks rubio is better than brooks
also do you expect when coach k and other nba players are asked about rubio, they are going to talk **** about him. of course they are going to say nice things. i remember jennings talking **** about him at the draft though http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2009/news/story?id=4255421 until the guy comes over and amounts to anything he is a wasted draft pick. i think he could be a good starter down the road. but he will never be an all star. he is just a little white scrub, with a good passing ability. he is overhyped because he has been playing pro ball since he was 14. for all you guys know he has already topped out
i meant, how do you guys know he hasn't topped out? there is a good chance when he is 25 he isn't that much better than he was at 19. its like when freddy adeu played soccer at 14. whenever guys are playing pro when they are real young they get overhyped on their future potential. but from what i have seen, i think he is extremely overrated
if rubio is this good (and i'm sure minny or any bad team who drafts him), he will get a lot of minutes to showcase what he's all about at the NBA level. look, international competition is misleading. rudy fernandez looks like an all-star most of the time in international competition, hell even navarro at times. the NBA is a different league, with different rules, and players play at a different speed compare to what they do overseas. what rubio has is court vision and playmaking. those assets will allow him to have a place in this league, and probably be a very good starter. but all-star? superstar? that's a stretch. with the game nowadays, guards have to be quick, fast, and strong. those things rubio lacks. people who bring up nash: there's a reason he doesn't do a lot of 1-on-1. he uses the pick and roll all the damn time, and he's effective at that b/c he's a LETHAL shooter. great shooting is the reason nash is still so effective (and that allows him to make plays). other than that, you look at paul, rose, deron, westbrook, rondo... all those guys are fast, quick, athletic, strong. again, rubio will be a very good player if he keeps progressing. and that's a great future for him too.
can rubio shoot an nba 3. or is he like v span, where he will just airball it 4 feet short? his best asset is definitely his hands for the steals. he has slow feet
bottom line is you can't be an all star averaging 6 points a game, and at this point he can not score much in the nba even if everything else in his game is there. so while he may be able to run a team, play solid d and do the little things right. until he can score more than 8 points a game, his few steals and good passes will not make him an all star
Why so many haters? I believe in Rubio, this kid possess his own unique passing ability, tremendous court vision, and a great defender. Sure, his jump shot obviously needs work... but thats the whole point of developing! The kid is only 19 for cryin out loud!! Now i'll let you see what the NBA players from TEAM USA say: (After the USA Spain 86-85 Game) Quote from Durant "He's an amazing defender, that's one thing that stood out to me is how well he pressured the ball and disrupted our offense,'' "He's flashy, he's crafty as well and the passes he did tonight were kind of amazing.'' U.S. coach Mike Krzyzewski expects Rubio to be a great NBA guard as he continues to physically grow. "He's gotten bigger and he plays outstanding defense, and because he's a pass-first guard - he's going to be liked by everybody who plays with him,'' said Krzyzewski, whose U.S. team came up against Rubio in the Olympic final two years ago. "He's improved his shooting and he's not afraid.'' Even Chicago Bulls point guard Derrick Rose came away impressed from their duel, despite Rubio stealing from him on at least two occasions. "It was great just to test him. He's a young player and he played great,'' Rose said. "He really runs the offense well ... I think he's ready for the NBA.'' Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...resses.ap/index.html?xid=si_nba#ixzz0xVPO49Cc
we are not haters. he is not a middle of the first round draft pick or a 2nd rounder. we are simply saying he is not an all star and until he comes over and shows something in the nba, you cannot project his development as some future stud. we are rating him as we should for a number 2 pick. and for a number 2 pick in the nba draft he is highly overrated. i am not saying he won't be good, but until he steps foot into the nba and does something, he is overhyped. and once again, nobody interviewed about him is going to talk **** on tv after the game. and also we are not saying he is not a solid nba player or will be. i just don't see that guy ever being an all star. and the people on this board act like he is the 2nd coming of john stockton. what if he is the white jayson williams? remember how hyped he was his first few years in the league. the guy can d up a little bit, and has a few flashy passes. cool, this is not the and 1 league. he has a bad shot, and may not ever have a great shot. how many great white point guards have their been without great shots? none kidd is black. rubio would be the first white pg ever without a good shot to be an all star. seriously think about that for a second here. so unless he really has the greatest court vision the world has ever seen, or his shot just improves dramatically, i dont see much out of him
everyone who loves rubio acts like they would rather have him than brooks? like i said before, rubio isn't fit to tie aaron brooks shoes
maybe rubio is a modern day bob cousy. other than that, someone on here name me one all star white pg in the last 30 years that didn't have a knockdown shot?
i can only think of 2 white all star pg. john stockton and mark price for a few years. so maybe rubio will bring his euro flair in and prove me wrong. but until then i am not a believer that he will be anything special
Just one more thought on the quickness part. In Europe they consider the players in the NBA to be one step quicker than in FIBA basketball, because in FIBA Basketball that first step would be "Traveling" lol But its true think about it you might consider Rubio a step slower than NBA gaurds but if you give him the NBA rules he is a step quicker than he is in europe. This sounds dumb but it is a valid theory. :grin:
Yea great scouting report by Jennings I can't even front. I'm just going to be real with you guys." Jennings is a hater and couldnt do squat in europe..... so if we compare Rubios games in Europe with Jennings then Rubio will be alot better.
Not going to call it dumb just going to call it wrong. Sure they call traveling more in FIBA, they also call flopping, illegal screens, and a host of other "defensive" moves for an offensive foul that would get you laughed at in the NBA. Plus their traveling calls are random at best imho. Wider lane, less physical defense, less athleticism, shorter 3, shorter game. It's not the first step that separates the leagues it's the conditioning and athleticism. You want to rate skills I think you have a point. Euroleague players are polished, but they have a long way to go to be compared equal in talent. If they are where is the multitude of Euroleague NBA all-stars, stat leaders, or first or second teamers?
i will write 48 posts if i want. stop crying about the number of posts. its cause i was writing at 5 am when i was wasted. sorry guys, i am such a loser for posting 11 times, instead of throwing it into one post. but the bottom line is, me writing on clutch fans is what makes me a loser. not my writing one sentence per post
