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US waves white flag in disastrous 'war on drugs'

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Zion, Feb 8, 2010.

  1. Zion

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    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-flag-in-disastrous-war-on-drugs-1870218.html
     
  2. BetterThanEver

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    No way to destroy the drug industry. The only thing you can do is bring it out into the open to regulate it. It would also reduce profits, because they would be subject to taxes.

    If alcohol prohibition was still alive, America would be destroying thousands of lives every month in a never ending "War on Alcohol" in Mexico and other foreign countries.
     
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    I disagree. This 'war' could have been won. The DEA didn't want to win it. Thats why it listed corruption as a reason it was lost.
     
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    What would 'winning" the war on drugs mean to you? Zero drug use? Zero drug smuggling? Small amount of both?
     
  5. DonnyMost

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    Surely you jest.

    That is about as realisitc as winning a war against sex.
     
  6. Space Ghost

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    This analogy fails on so many levels.
     
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    You should really stop trying to take everything on a 1 to 1, literal level and instead read the context in which they are used.

    I am illustrating how futile/difficult they each are, and indeed how sex can be used with bad intent/result just as much as drugs.

    That, however, like almost any other analogy used on this BBS, is apparently lost on you.
     
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    zero drug use is dam near impossible, as well as zero smuggling.

    but an impactful decrease in both is certainly do-able. I just think there is too much money to be made by simply looking the other way. Also, if these agents start cleaning up the major dealers and cartels, then those agents have no job.

    and yes, I'm sporting a tin hat. :cool:
     
  10. Shooter3

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    I find it hilarious how acceptable alcohol is in our culture- just look at all the beer ads during the Super Bowl and how alcohol use is accepted in our culture, while alcohol is much more dangerous and ruins many more lives than mar1juana does.
     
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    Thats because Alchohol is legal. Legalize drugs and watch its use, and deaths from its use, soar - just like Alchohol.
     
  12. DonnyMost

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    And your reasoning for this is...?

    Do you know how things went during prohibition?
     
  13. moestavern19

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    War on Drugs? Yeaaaahaw, well saddle up Pahtna! Jimmy Budweiser and Billy Marlboro ain't gonna go down without a rip-rawrin' lobbyist fight!
     
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    Donny don't bring your stupid logic and reason into this discussion.


    Look at Prohibition? So what?

    We were all a lot safer with the mafia running the alcohol trafficking in this country!
     
  15. jo mama

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    mar1juana and certain psychedelics are legal in holland and they have lower usage rates pretty much across the board.
     
  16. jo mama

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    or a war on terrorism.

    we have been in a drug war for almost 40 years now and look at the results - drug usage has gone way up and untold sums of money have been spent. every year the government spends more and more and the result is that drug usage increases.

    the united states has the highest incarceration rate in the world and most of that is non-violent drug offenders (which is the key reason why drugs will never be legalized, imo).
     
  17. Rockets2K

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    I'm sure if you are nice, andymoon will gladly post all the evidence he has compiled that says different. ;)


    on-topic

    about damn time...we waste FAR FAR too much cash on this crap
     
  18. peleincubus

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    i think russia has the highest
     
  19. astros148

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    stupidest comment ive read on BBS. Wow
     
  20. jo mama

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    no, we do. more so than russia, i would have figured china or saudi arabia to have the highest rate. and i find the bolded part noteworthy.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration
    The United States' incarceration rate is, according to official reports, the highest in the world, at 737 persons imprisoned per 100,000 (as of 2005). A report released in 2008 indicates that in the United States more than 1 in 100 adults is now confined in an American jail or prison. The United States has 5% of the world's population and 25% of the world's incarcerated population.
     

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