The scenario would be Mainland China attempting to assimilate Taiwan............Taiwan wouldn't be attempting to control/conquer Mainland China. Suppose that it would take a minimum of 300,000 troops on the ground to take & maintain control of Taiwan. With a distance of roughly 100 miles of open water between Taiwan and China, it would take a sizable sealift capacity to get those forces to beaches and keep them resupplied until airports could be siezed and controlled. Naval amphib assault ships are very limited in the PLAN (Chinese Navy) and have a total capacity of around 10,000 troops. There is also some military conversion capacity in regular shipping, but not nearly enough to get 300,000 troops, their equipment and supplies to Taiwan in a timely manner (D-Day + 3?). Also, massing of shipping and troop concentration for embarkment would be noticed by Satellites.........<i>sneaking up</i> on an unprepared Taiwan is unlikely. PLAN ships that would provide covering fire and active air defense for the troop transports are also limited and would likely be a dicey situation. At the present time, an armed conquest/takeover by Chinese troops does not seem feasible. A drastic scenario would be <i>human wave</i> assaults in which China would keep sacrificing troops and equipment to wear Taiwan down, but that seems unlikely. China does have extensive arsenal of missiles targeted at Taiwan and there is always the threat of pounding them into submission from afar, but pulverising the infrastructure & killing 100s of thousands of Taiwanese goes against the reasons why China wants Taiwan to be assimilated.
to help others becuz ur motive was to benefit urself is worse than not doing anything at all! the motives is most important not the result! at least the chinese government dont tell lies to the world n think everybody is stupid we are going to invade iraq for the good of iraqis to liberate them so fxxking hyprocrtial is worse than not doing anything! i bet u think george washington is the best most holy human being too robbie380
You know, there's something about the lack of capitalization, added to the lack of commas, that makes it seem as if our friend fatfatcow is not ever pausing to breathe. I always find myself fighting for air at the end of his posts.
george washington was close to being an aristocrat. however he was not responsible for millions being imprisoned like mao was. mao was also responsible for one of the greatest disasters in human history during the great leap, didn't 30+ million die of starvation? mao also thought nuclear war wouldnt be that bad because it would make the socialist cause stronger. hell the guy only believed socialism could be achieved thru violence. and the chinese government doesn't tell lies to the world???? what world are you living in? and the freedom of iraqi people benefits us while at the same time benefitting them. liberal democratic societies are the most stable in the world therefore a liberal democratic society in iraq would be better for us because it is a more stable state. and no they don't have to be a puppet of the US to be beneficial to us. look at japan and america fight all the time economically. and i dont think everything that the american government has done is right. at least i can say that my government has done some bad things in the past...can you even admit that about yours?
which presidnet of your responisble for the death of the natives n black slavery? mao didnt intend to starv the millions of the chinese, obiviouly his great leap forward movenment n cultureal revelotuion and many other things happaned in china was very big mistake n he and the government is responsible for it! but its not like how the american want to think that mao did all this so he can cause all the harm to the chinese! the american try to paint mao an evil leader becuz he was a commuinist! alot of thngs n movement he planned was a mistake , but he n the government thought that it was good for the chinese peoples but it just didnt work out that way! u have to remeber mao's father was a farmer n he got the support from the farmers to be in power . so he know how its like to be a poor man i say the first half of his life he done mostly for the good of the chinese. but as he get older n n the communism was a new system in the world n he see the system n many thing he tried fail , i think he kind of give up or just trying to stay in power. but he was old n there were a lot of snakes around him( the gang of four). its not like he believe that socialism can only archive thru violence but it was said by marx that communism can only archiver thru revolution! i cant agree with u that liberal democracy is the most stable governmet , just becuz it worked in america doesnt mean it suit all culuture n all peoples! i say an ideal system would be democratic socialism. u see why american are wrong for supporting nationalist governmet which is now is taiwan is all wrong from the beginning is becuz when the republic of china was found by father of china dr.sun from the idea of declaration of independence from american after overthrown the monarchy it suppose to allow all party in the parliament but when chang kai shek ( the chinese presidnet that flee to taiwan in 1949)took over the party he oppressed the communist n arrest them put them in jail or kill them secretly becuz at the time communist party lead by mao n others was very poplular in the country n the natinaolist government was very conruptted . but the american still support the nationalist just becuz they didnt like the commuinist , they didnt care about the will of the chinese peoples (much like what is happaning in saudi today) the communist party was almost destroyed by chang until he was hold hostage by his own general to stop the civil war first n fight the japanese first. before this happaned the communist side propose a joint governemt many times n were all rejected by chang! after the japanese got defeated the nationalist lost almost all the support from china except the rich becuz of corruption and poverty n this is how the communist win the civil war , many genrea of nationalist side turn againist chang n fought for the communist side. but the american still supported a nationlist side just becuz they hated communism!! after chang flee to taiwan, first the nationalist side was planning to take over mainland side again with the american help, but after the american see that the communist party was very popluar in mainland n its impossilble for the nationalist to take back mainland , the american offer chang many time to claim independence n protection if they do so! n stop the communist side to go acroos the taiwan starit for unitng china! although chang is always recognize as a conrupted leader hes still get the respect from the chinese n mao himself becuz he refused the american many time the offer for independce!
I always find myself trying not to respond. Or make a joke of it. If he really believes this stuff, is really Chinese, and is not just a troll trying to jerk our chains... then I must assume that he represents a small minority of the people of his country... sort of like Tom DeLay and his ilk here in the States. The alternative scarcely bears thinking about. Maybe that's not a good example. DeLay has managed to weasel his way into a position of power in the Republican Party. I'm starting to tire of fatfatcow and his repetitious babbling. You need do something about repeating your shtick, fatfatcow. Come up with some new material.
fatfatcow...you are right about how it was wrong for the government of america to blindly support the nationalists out of fear of communism. hell even the american generals who were sent to china felt that the communists were better than the nationalists because the nationalists were corrupt and lazy. those generals got recalled back to america and were kept quiet. and if you ask any political scientist they will tell you liberal democracies are the most stable form of society. how many of them do you know that have been overthrown? its not just america. you are forgetting all of europe, canada, japan, and australia. i'm sure there are many more places i am forgetting but those are the big ones. its not just america that is a liberal democracy. and not all democracies are the same. in fact pretty much every other democracy does not operate in the american style. does america have a problem with it? no. also...mao said nuclear war would not be that bad. he thought you needed violence to have a revolution and flatly rejected the idea of peaceful socialist revolution. he supported thought reform and controlling people. you may not want to call mao evil but the guy encouraged violence against people who opposed him. yes he did want the best for the chinese people in general, but god forbid you think something that he did not agree with. look at what he did to peng dehuai for just expressing his opinions about the great leap. look at all the intellectuals he arrested after the 100 flowers campaign. mao may not be evil in your eyes but he made serious mistakes that led to many millions of dead chinese. he was not responsible with his power.
robbie, since u know n agree it was wrong that ur government supported taiwan side based on only the american interest so can u tell me why is it ok for the american blindly support the nationalist side to over communist side n why was it ok for the american side to help the nationalist side to beat the communist side n uniting china even tho communist side was the chinese's wish back then?!why did the american allowed the nationalist side to oppres the communist party n kill its member when it was the chinese wishes to have communist party?? why is it not ok the opposite when the communist side win n trying to unite china n attack the nationalist last base;s base taiwan??!! every chinese knew american helped the nationalist side only becuz it was the american interest!!! so why being so hyprocrite now n claiming u are doing it to protect the freedom of the chinese in taiwan??( taiwan just had there first democratic elected president in 96) when they didnt protect the freedom of the chinese back then?? the only way we the chinese see it is american dunt want a reunited china!!! as they have offered the nationalist side many time to claim independnce b4! first the american say they love democracy n capitalism they oppose dictatorship n commuist so why did they gave up taiwan for mainland in the 70's again for the interest of the american !!?? of course i think its wrong for the mainland to reunite taiwan with force now(unless they claim independence ) becuz peoples live in there are our chinese brothers too, but what i dunt understand is why american still stick their nose in our chinese business ?!! we all know the american taiwan policy was false n hyprocrite so why they still bother !!?? n now trying to put taiwan in the missile defense system??!! the only reason the chinese see again is that american dunt want to see a reunited china becuz they fear a stronger china!!
hey fatfatcow...you completely ignored this part of my post... and if you ask any political scientist they will tell you liberal democracies are the most stable form of society. how many of them do you know that have been overthrown? its not just america. you are forgetting all of europe, canada, japan, and australia. i'm sure there are many more places i am forgetting but those are the big ones. its not just america that is a liberal democracy. and not all democracies are the same. in fact pretty much every other democracy does not operate in the american style. does america have a problem with it? no. also...mao said nuclear war would not be that bad. he thought you needed violence to have a revolution and flatly rejected the idea of peaceful socialist revolution. he supported thought reform and controlling people. you may not want to call mao evil but the guy encouraged violence against people who opposed him. yes he did want the best for the chinese people in general, but god forbid you think something that he did not agree with. look at what he did to peng dehuai for just expressing his opinions about the great leap. look at all the intellectuals he arrested after the 100 flowers campaign. mao may not be evil in your eyes but he made serious mistakes that led to many millions of dead chinese. he was not responsible with his power. also, i already explained that the US has a simplistic view of communism as bad, but at the same time there should be nothing wrong with the US supplying Taiwan with missle defense systems if the two states want to reunite peacefully. If both sides agree on a peaceful reunification then the Chinese don't have to worry about Taiwan's missles. If the Chinese decide to take Taiwan by force then the the Taiwanese have a way to defend themselves. Is something wrong with that?
how can u be so ignorant? why is it ok for the american to support the chinese in taiwan for the miisle defense system since the reason they suppor the nationalsit side fromt he beginning was wrong!! its nopt about worrying taiwan's misslie its about the american have no right to deploy any **** on chinese soil!! n there is no such race as taiwanese , we all chinese in mainland n taiwan!!! u completely ignore the point that it was ok for the nationalist to fight communist n reunited china with force but not ok if it is communist doing the same, to the american!!!!! a very important points!
as u pointed out even the american knew it was better n it was the chinese poeples's choice for communist, so why was it ok n why did the american supported nationist even tho it was againist the will of most chinese at the time?
what else is disturbing is that many american today actually thought n believed that their original purposes for helping the nationalist (taiwan) was fighting for the freedom of the chinese n good of the chinese,etc. they never know the truth. is it a bit bitter to know that ur ancestor intention of helping the nationalist wasnt these n it was actually supporting a government that was againist the will of most chinese peoples!!
is it double standard by u n american to call mao evil for what he responsible n not calling those amrican leader who allow black slavery n committed genecide to native indians evil?!
Fatcow, Did you miss my post where I asked you what happened in Tienanmen Square 50 times? Let me ask you again: WHAT HAPPENED IN TIENANMEN SQUARE?
I'm sure the Tibetans are delighted to learn that after hundreds and hundreds of years they have finally learned the truth... They're not Tibetans. They're Chinese!
Hey, wait. ... This could really work for us, as the greatest melting pot in the world. Just picture it. Instead of "axis of evil," we could have "axis of estranged and confused Americans!" I can hear it now... "The Iraqi people are American. As are the people of North Korea. In fact, people everywhere are American in their spirit, and we embrace... people everywhere... except... in California."
why cant u american admit that u were wrong about supporting nationalist(taiwan) at the beginning as it was againist the will of the chinese peoples!! many many of u actually believed u were supporting n fighting for the freedom of the chinese which isnt true!!
Do you think Bush would hire me as an international consultant? sorry if I just triggered a bunch of acid reflux in 50% of the posters here
He should... it would help settle my stomach. You would HAVE to be better than the advice he's getting now. Even if you said nothing.
