So how did welfare break up black families and not hispanic and white families? And how does welfare break up families?
You just told me of a mechanism that allegedly addresses it. I'm asking you to elaborate on how that mechanism created that gap.
If you don't have a theory for why welfare would negatively affect black families in a disproportionate way to hispanic or white families (or any other demographic) why would you even cite it as a cause?
It's exchanges like these with him that make me believe the person typing behind that screen is trolling and playing a schtick.
@fchowd0311 Patrick Moynihan well known former NY very liberal Senator called this I don't know Why it has affected black families more. Black women have relied welfare more. That's how it works.
Lots of other politicians, scientists, pundits, etc have cited many other competing theories for the break down of the Black family. You must have some reason for selecting "welfare" as the cause. Or did you just randomly type- welfare?
Patrick Moynihan foreseeing the decline of the black family https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...-moynihan-report-an-annotated-edition/404632/
Because the decline in family starts with welfare. Moynihan report https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...-moynihan-report-an-annotated-edition/404632/
Hmm. It seems like the Moynihan Report has a lot to say about systemic bull ish affecting the black family prior to the civil rights era. A few excerpts- Chapter III: The Roots of the Problem ... “Extending this line of reasoning, psychologists point out that slavery in all its forms sharply lowered the need for achievement in slaves ... Negroes in bondage, stripped of their African heritage, were placed in a completely dependent role. All of their rewards came, not from individual initiative and enterprise, but from absolute obedience—a situation that severely depresses the need for achievement among all peoples. Most important of all, slavery vitiated family life ... Since many slaveowners neither fostered Christian marriage among their slave couples nor hesitated to separate them on the auction block, the slave household often developed a fatherless matrifocal (mother-centered) pattern.” 15 ... The Reconstruction With the emancipation of the slaves, the Negro American family began to form in the United States on a widespread scale. But it did so in an atmosphere markedly different from that which has produced the white American family. The Negro was given liberty, but not equality. Life remained hazardous and marginal. Of the greatest importance, the Negro male, particularly in the South, became an object of intense hostility, an attitude unquestionably based in some measure of fear. When Jim Crow made its appearance towards the end of the 19th century, it may be speculated that it was the Negro male who was most humiliated thereby; the male was more likely to use public facilities, which rapidly became segregated once the process began, and just as important, segregation, and the submissiveness it exacts, is surely more destructive to the male than to the female personality. Keeping the Negro “in his place” can be translated as keeping the Negro male in his place: The female was not a threat to anyone. Unquestionably, these events worked against the emergence of a strong father figure. The very essence of the male animal, from the bantam rooster to the four star general, is to strut. Indeed, in 19th century America, a particular type of exaggerated male boastfulness became almost a national style. Not for the Negro male. The “sassy ******[sic]” was lynched. In this situation, the Negro family made but little progress toward the middle class pattern of the present time. ... Urbanization Country life and city life are profoundly different. The gradual shift of American society from a rural to an urban basis over the past century and a half has caused abundant strains, many of which are still much in evidence. When this shift occurs suddenly, drastically, in one or two generations, the effect is immensely disruptive of traditional social patterns. ... “In many cases, of course, the dissolution of the simple family organization has begun before the family reaches the northern city. But, if these families have managed to preserve their integrity until they reach the northern city, poverty, ignorance, and color force them to seek homes in deteriorated slum areas from which practically all institutional life has disappeared. Hence, at the same time that these simple rural families are losing their internal cohesion, they are being freed from the controlling force of public opinion and communal institutions. Family desertion among Negroes in cities appears, then, to be one of the inevitable consequences of the impact of urban life on the simple family organization and folk culture which the Negro has evolved in the rural South..."
He doesn't or most likely can't read English. Russian is his first language. He has a very tough time with any reading posted on these forums.
