US soldiers 'killed Afghan civilians for sport and collected fingers as trophies'

Same thing as Vietnam.

This is what happens when you send soldiers overseas and they don't know who to kill.

 

Maybe it has to do with how...you know....we kind expect soldiers to behave properly and NOT murder children for sport?

Or is that too much to ask

 

what is?

 

No response to the basso article huh?

Thanks for the link, I figured as much.

 

You do realize that the soldier pleaded guilty, right?

In a courtroom?

With a judge?

 

the basso article is a response to a long ass rolling stone article that i care not to continue reading. i did read the first four pages and it was a little biased i believe. i think most people consider this an isolated incident, the point of basso's piece.

what's funny is that in another thread basso is calling this obama abu ghraid, which would be calling this a systematic problem, so i wouldn't rely on him to make my point.

 

Wasn't the point of the rolling stone article to enumerate the details of the incidents? I read it a few days ago and definitely don't remember the writer trying to paint the entire brigade as a marauding group of soldiers, in fact he made it clear that a limited number of people were involved, and those who knew were only those who worked with the Kill Team daily. If the rebuttal article was trying to show that the whole brigade was largely innocent, then the writer would probably agree.

 

Look at the 2nd paragraph of the article:

To me, the author seems to imply that the entire Company (between 100 and 200 men) was in on this - especially in the last sentence.

 

Lol. He was also agitating to bomb Libyan military targets (probably counting on the US and UN being unwilling to act), and then started criticizing Obama for participating when the coalition did exactly that. I suppose he doesn't miss an opportunity to complain.

 

Damn, that's ****ed up!!!

 

Yes, that was probably my favorite of all basso moves in at least the past year.

 

it is an isolated incident (as was abu ghraib), or at least limited to team members who would "fit in a van." so, 5-6 people?

RS certainly meant to imply that it was the whole brigade, and used the video (dishonestly) to try to make that point.

 

o soyou expect a zero percent incident rate? out of 2 million people there are going to be be a fair share of **** heads in the military.

 

It apparently is only an OUTRAGE if it ATW is posting something about Muslims.
If it's switched around, and gives everyone an opportunity to bash America its totally awesome. That sucks, especially since most of us on this board are Americans.

 

this makes no sense.

 

When I click on his link (http://www.michaelyon-online.com/calling-bull****-on-rolling-stone.htm) the page that pops up says "Bad karma: we can't find that page!".

Anyway as other posters have noted if its bull****e then why did some of the soldiers in question plead guilty and other soldiers and higher ups are not denying it?

 

I think we are splitting hairs here but the paragraph you cite starts out saying "Among the men of Bravo Company" which would not mean all of the men of Bravo company. It seems to me if they meant all of the men it would start out by saying " The men of Bravo Company".

 

Must point out, the rebuttal article specifically talks about the Brigade in general (3000-5000 according to wiki), and the author's experience around the Brigade, while the rolling stones article mentions the Company (75-200 according to wiki). So depending on how wide your definition of 'isolated' is, then in a sense it is isolated (within the company), but in another sense it isn't (a Company is too big to be counted as isolated). Regardless, it seems the scale the original author and rebuttal author are talking about is completely different.