US Opposes Cease Fire in Lebanon.

The rationale is legitimate because of the obvious partnership of Lebanon and terrorist Hezbollah. Resolution 1559 exhibited the strength of ties in coexistance...This land is lebanon land, this land is terrorist land, the blend of partnership is obvious to seeeeeeee. Bombing roads, and airport runwayyyys...
Are legitimate strikes for you and me...


The Israeli attack on the Beirut airport - the first such attack by Israel since 1982 - blasted craters into all three runways, but did not hit the main terminal. Israeli planes later attacked the fuel stores at the airport, setting at least one tank on fire and filling the night sky with flames.

The Israeli military said it struck the airport because it is "a central hub for the transfer of weapons and supplies to the Hezbollah terrorist organization.". I'm more inclined to believe that stance from Israel than terrorist statements or those who hold hands with terrorists...

 

What are you even talking about? Partnership? The Labanese govt. have not been partners with Hezbollah and have been oppenents of them. They are unable to remove them or they would. Because Hezbollah has a strangle hold on part of the land doesn't make them partners.

Of course if Israel invades then regular Lebanese military will join Hezbollah in fighting off the invasion.

The bombing of the international airport was as I stated. At least 8 civilians were killed. There were no Hezbollah personnell sign on the premises, no Hezbollah equipment, planes, etc. there.

 

I disagree, Lebanon is in obvious partnership with Hezbollah since they have done nothing to resist the terrorist occupation in the wake of resolution 1559...It is Lebanon's responsibility to take control of their country. Everyone, everybody has responsibility. All lebanon has to do is ask for assistance in destroying Hezbollah, but they refuse to do anything which counters Hezbollah. Lebanon is a host w**** of ample land, cover, resources, and diplomatic immunity cover for Hezbollah...The strategy of the partnership is impressive, but Lebanon will ultimately lose because of the partnership...The bombing of the airport was legitimate as Hayes and I have depicted. Israel regrets unnecessary civilian death, but let's blame the irresponsibilty of Lebanon...They are the w**** host with no intentions to resist for the good of peace...

 

Lebanon certainly wouldn't invite Israel in to help with anything. They fought long and hard to drive Israel out. Not being able to and not wanting to be rid of Hezbollah are two different things. To say they are in partnership is faulty logic.

By your logic the U.S. govt. is in partnership with organized crime, and drug pushers. They haven't been able to drive them out despite the fact that are laws clearly make it the responsibility of the govts. Federal, state, and muinicipal.

 

ROX, with all due respect, you're wrong. Lebanon is at least a third Christian, and a very large percentage Druze, which is not Christain, or Muslim, either. Not as we think of the religions. And certainly not all Lebanese Muslims are supporters of Hezbollah, or radical in their beliefs. The majority of Lebanese want nothing more than to be rid of foreign influences from Syria, Iran and, yes, Israel. They are a hardworking, industrious people, long known as traders and merchants. If left alone, they are prosperous and make a good life for themselves.

No one will leave them alone.



Keep D&D Civil.

 

The U.S. government is for sure in bed with terrorist Luis Posada Carriles. I'd like to see ROXRAN slowly twist his knife into the heart of Mr. Carriles.

 

Agreed, but that isn't the same situation where the U.S. wants to do something about a problem, but is unable. According to Roxran's logic not being able to do something about a problem means you are in partnership with the troublemakers.

 

Every nation has crime...Every nation may even have terroristic "cells" to some minor degree of influence...But does every nation have the degree of terroristic endeavor of Lebanon? I'll make this quick: the answer is NO...

I argue that Lebanon has allowed this to occur. They are a nation most irresponsible. I'm not saying there isn't good people, good traders, and such there, but they are infested in a manner that is exclusive in logical/illogical comparisons...The lebanese govt. was irresponsible to not do anything and not ask for assistance in achieving resolution 1559...

 

Not every nation has violent drug related crime like the U.S. does, though. Does that make the U.S. irresponsible for not living up to its Federal laws because they didn't get rid of the violent drug gangs, and crimes?

If Israel hadn't occupied those lands in the past there wouldn't have been a Hamas, or a Hezbollah as we know them today. They wouldn't have gotten off the ground. Hezbollah came about in the 80's to drive Israel out of Lebanon.

We can't go back and change the past, but we can look at what has been the most successful, and what hasn't. They need to learn from their mistakes. Without anything to nuture the terrorism and ideaology Hezbollah, it will whither away into insignificance.

 

They've only had a government not a puppet of Syria for a year or two. What do you expect, miracles? Given time, they may have been able to do something. Now, these actions by Israel, and Hezbollah, strengthen the radical forces the majority of Lebanese want out of their country.



Keep D&D Civil.

 

Not every nation has the assurance of rights, freedoms and protections to citizens...

Israel has responded in such instances because acts were committed against them. If those who oppose Israel would not have committed heinous acts against Israel in the past, ther would of course been no response to acts in question which were directed against Israel...

Lebanon already is a host massively infected, the terrorists only want Israels' destruction and Israel needs to learn that going for the throat and staying on the throat will assure the destruction of Hezbollah...Counting on Hezbollah magically "whithering" away is faulty belief which only ensures the slow, and deliberate destruction of Israel...Which is what Hezbollah wants, and Lebanon cannot/will not stop...The unfortunate thing is Lebanon by virtue of resources in modes of diplomatic cover, food, travel, terrain cover breeds perpetual life...The borg of hezbollah cannot survive without Lebanon as it is...Israel is right to change things as it is to survive...One positive thing out of all this is the international world is seeing the plight of Israel, and the forgotten failure of resolution 1559. The world is realizing Hezbollah must be out of the equation for peace...I want peace...

 

Given time more kidnappings and rockets would be launched and the advocacy of Israel not protecting itself makes no sense. I expect Lebanon to be responsible and do "something" which counters Hezbollah to even a minor degree...

 

Many, many tanks on the border,...good.

 

Your history of the region is a little off. Israel occupied Arab lands before they were even granted statehood. From the beginning they occupied land outside that which was granted them in 1948. They continued expanding, and never left the occupied territories. So to say Israel never did anything including occupation except as a reaction is inaccurate.

The fact that Hezbollah didn't even exist until after the occupation of Lebanon by Israel only belies your argument. That isn't to say that there weren't attacks against Israel, because certainly there were. Israel has been a nation with many great odds stacked against it.

I am all in favor of wiping out Hezbollah and other terrorist organizations. However that needs to be done seperate of a peace process.

As far as protecting Israel, how do you define protecting? Do you define that as removing conditions in which Israel is attacked and allowing it to live in peace? Then the best thing Israel can do to protect itself is start a peace process which includes withdrawing to the 1967 borders and living up to its obligations in that peace process.

The process should also include steps and measures and quite possible foreign troops to weed out and get rid of terrorists. However the wiping out of terrorist groups should be done whether or not there is a peace process. And attacks by terrorists shouldn't be allowed to stop the process.

The peace process has protected Israel more than any heavy handed military tactics thus far. Repeating the same tactics ove and over that have never worked for them is just stupid.

 

I define protecting as elimination of terrorist threats and the recognition of Israel to exist as signed by all arab neighbors in the boundaries it has now in accordance with the U.N. agreement. BTW, Israel is in full compliance with resoultion 425, and any further concession of land is unwarranted.

 

There are actually many resolutions which Israel is not in compliance with. you also need to read the 4th Geneva Convention.

 

You and I are in the same boat, Sishir. I agree with Deckard that some posters here seemed to be 'gloating' about the fact that Hezbollah was raining rockets over Israel and causing casualties (which has caused nearly two million Israelis to leave their homes and sleep in shelters to avoid those rockets), but that has been more 'cryptic' than anything else. However, some posters who clearly support Israeli actions have gone far beyond that with statements such as "Hebrew Hammer" or "twist the knife slowly" among others, which seem to be rooting for death and destruction to take place, almost as if this is nothing more than a video game.

Either way, anyone who is 'gloating' over the death and destruction of human life and property needs to grow the hell up; I think the fact that most Americans have been fortunate enough to have never lived in a war zone -- where your own neighborhood/town becomes a battleground -- makes some of them somewhat delusional/ignorant about the cost of war.

 

Yeah. I thought that even though it's an ancient quote, it still rings true today.