[US News & World Report]Source: Huckabee Tops McCain's Veep List

thumbs · May 12, 2008

Ottomaton said:

close -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bain_Capital

not an unreasonable mistake.
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I'll post this again. Never trust wikipedia as a source.

Mulder · May 12, 2008

HAYJON02 said:

If the size of the candidate has any bearing on the election, then we shouldn't be allowed to choose the president in the first place.

It's not like they have to physically lead the country into battle or something.
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There are some that might think otherwise...

Physical Stature of Presidents: Average Height 5'10".

Taller Candidate wins most of the time.

Barack Obama, one of the two competing nominees for the Democratic nomination in the 2008 U.S. presidential election, is 6 ft 1 in (1.85 meters)

The height of Hillary Clinton, the other potential Democratic nominee, is unclear, but estimates range seem to settle around 5 ft 6 in (1.67 meters)

John McCain, the presumptive nominee of the Republican Party in the 2008 presidential election is 5 ft 7 in (1.70 meters).

Ottomaton · May 12, 2008

thumbs said:

I'll post this again. Never trust wikipedia as a source.
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Personally, I don't care if you are still living in 2004 and have read bad things somewhere about Wikipedia and so distrust it because someone told you should. Someone also told me that I should buy 3-Com because it will always appreciate in value. Thankfully, I didn’t listen to them and I’m not going to listen to you. I know better, I’ve been using Wikipedia for years, understand its flaws and benefits (better than you apparently) and trust it where it deserves to be trusted.

Never trust people who make arbitrary rules about who to trust. If you have a problem with the content of the article, can you tell me what about it is false? If you think the article invented Romney's connection with Bain Capital, or what Bain Capital does, perhaps you should site some sources.

Dubious · May 12, 2008

So I guess they'll be advocating adding a Creation Studies wing at the National Sciences Foundation.

thumbs · May 12, 2008

Ottomaton said:

Personally, I don't care if you are still living in 2004 and have read bad things somewhere about Wikipedia and so distrust it because someone told you should. Someone also told me that I should buy 3-Com because it will always appreciate in value. Thankfully, I didn’t listen to them and I’m not going to listen to you. I know better, I’ve been using Wikipedia for years, understand its flaws and benefits (better than you apparently) and trust it where it deserves to be trusted.

Never trust people who make arbitrary rules about who to trust. If you have a problem with the content of the article, can you tell me what about it is false? If you think the article invented Romney's connection with Bain Capital, or what Bain Capital does, perhaps you should site some sources.
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Most newspapers and other media do not allow reporters to use Wikipedia as a source because it is so inaccurate. I do not live in 2004, but I do respect accuracy of information.

Many net users run straight to Wikipedia instead of credible sources, and they -- perhaps not you -- tend to accept it as gospel. If you do not have the same regard for accuracy, then I must question the veracity of your posts. To this point I have not questioned them, and I have held you in esteem.

Rashmon · May 12, 2008

Just be sure 'n keep them Huckabee boys away from the convention buffet table 'cuz I don't think the economy can handle it.

rimrocker · May 12, 2008

OH MY! Trouble at the convention... no wonder McCain's thinking about Huckabee... he'll use him to blunt Paul...

Ron Paul's forces quietly plot GOP convention revolt against McCain
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/05/ronpaulgop.html

Virtually all the nation's political attention in recent weeks has focused on the compelling state-by-state presidential nomination struggle between two Democrats and the potential for party-splitting strife over there.

But in the meantime, quietly, largely under the radar of most people, the forces of Rep. Ron Paul have been organizing across the country to stage an embarrassing public revolt against Sen. John McCain when Republicans gather for their national convention in Minnesota at the beginning of September.

Paul's presidential candidacy has been correctly dismissed all along in terms of winning the nomination. He was even excluded as irrelevant by Fox News from a nationally-televised GOP debate in New Hampshire.

But what's been largely overlooked is Paul's candidacy as a reflection of a powerful lingering dissatisfaction with the Arizona senator among the party's most conservative conservatives. As anticipated in late March in The Ticket, that situation could be exacerbated by today's expected announcement from former Republican Rep. Bob Barr of Georgia for the Libertarian Party's presidential nod, a slot held by Paul in 1988.

Never mind Ralph Nader, Republican and Democratic parties both face ...

... potentially damaging internal splits that could cripple their chances for victory in a narrow vote on Nov. 4.

Just take a look at recent Republican primary results, largely overlooked because McCain locked up the necessary 1,191 delegates long ago. In Indiana, McCain got 77% of the recent Republican primary vote, Mike Huckabee and Mitt Romney, who've each long ago quit and endorsed McCain, still got 10% and 5% respectively, while Paul took 8%.

On the same May 6 in North Carolina, McCain received less than three-quarters of Republican votes (74%), while Huckabee got 12%, Paul 7% and Alan Keyes and No Preference took a total of 7%.

Pennsylvania was even slightly worse for the GOP's presumptive nominee, who got only 73% to a combined 27% for Paul (16%) and Huckabee (11%).

As Politico.com's Jonathan Martin noted recently, at least some of these results are temporary protest votes in meaningless primaries built on lingering affection for Huckabee and suspicion of McCain.

Given the long-since settled GOP race, thousands of other Republicans in these states, who might have put up with a McCain vote, crossed over to vote in the more exciting Democratic primaries, on their own for Sen. Barack Obama or at the urging of talk-show host Rush Limbaugh, who sought to support Hillary Clinton and prolong Democratic bloodletting.

According to a recent Boston Globe tally, Paul has a grand total of 19 Republican delegates to Romney's 260, Huckabee's 286 and McCain's 1,413.

In the last three months, Paul's forces, who donated $34.5 million to his White House effort and upward of a million total votes, have, as The Ticket has noted, been fighting a series of guerrilla battles with party establishment officials at county and state conventions from Washington and Missouri to Maine and Mississippi. Their goal: to take control of local committees, boost their delegate totals and influence platform debates.

Paul, for instance, favors a drastically reduced federal government, abolishing the Federal Reserve, ending the Iraq war immediately and withdrawing U.S. troops from abroad.

They hope to demonstrate their disagreements with McCain vocally at the convention through platform fights and an attempt to get Paul a prominent speaking slot. Paul, who's running unopposed in his home Texas district for an 11th House term, still has some $5 million in war funds and has instructed his followers that their struggle is not about a single election, but a long-term revolution for control of the Republican Party.

So eager are they to follow their leader's words, that Paul's supporters have driven his new book, "The Revolution: A Manifesto," to the top of several bestseller lists.

While Paul has consistently refused a third-party bid, he has vowed not to endorse McCain, a refusal mirrored by hundreds of his supporters who have left comments on The Ticket in recent weeks. And, no doubt, they'll flock back here today to spread the gospel below.

-- Andrew Malcolm
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tinman · May 12, 2008

A_3PO · May 12, 2008

rimrocker said:

OH MY! Trouble at the convention... no wonder McCain's thinking about Huckabee... he'll use him to blunt Paul...
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Ron Paul again. Oh brother! Why can't he just go away and let McCain do his best against Obama.

serious black · May 12, 2008

My money still says he picks Clinton.

bejezuz · May 12, 2008

thumbs said:

Most newspapers and other media do not allow reporters to use Wikipedia as a source because it is so inaccurate. I do not live in 2004, but I do respect accuracy of information.

Many net users run straight to Wikipedia instead of credible sources, and they -- perhaps not you -- tend to accept it as gospel. If you do not have the same regard for accuracy, then I must question the veracity of your posts. To this point I have not questioned them, and I have held you in esteem.
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Wikipedia is what it is, the internet's version of the Hitchhikers Guide. Journalists and academics can't cite to it because it is publicly editable. This has less to do with editorial integrity (which has been pretty good in my experience) than it does with the fact that each page is constantly changing. Personally, I think it is one of the most valuable secondary sources for research in the world.

rimrocker · May 12, 2008

Oh dear! And this from Novackula... God and Huckabee want Obama to win!

McCain's Christian Problem

By Robert D. Novak
Monday, May 12, 2008; A19
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/11/AR2008051101786_pf.html

John McCain, who as the Republican candidate for president has spent the past two months trying to consolidate right-wing support, has a problem of disputed dimensions with a vital component of the conservative coalition: evangelicals. The biggest question is whether Mike Huckabee is part of the problem or the solution for McCain.

Some U.S. Christians are not reconciled to McCain's candidacy but instead regard the prospective presidency of Barack Obama in the nature of a biblical plague visited upon a sinful people. These militants look at former Baptist preacher Huckabee as "God's candidate" for president in 2012. Whether they can be written off as merely a troublesome fringe group depends on Huckabee's course.

Huckabee's announced support of McCain is unequivocal, and he is regarded in the McCain camp as a friend and ally. But credible activists are spreading the word that Huckabee secretly allies himself with the bitter-end opposition. That hardly seems possible considering his public backing, but critics of Huckabee's 10 years as governor of Arkansas say he is all too capable of playing a double game.

McCain and Huckabee were friendly rivals in this year's Republican competition, sharing contempt for Mitt Romney. Indeed, McCain would not be where he is today had Huckabee not mobilized born-again voters to upset Romney in the Iowa caucuses. All of Romney's efforts to overtake McCain in conservative Southern state primaries were stifled by Huckabee's success in those contests. Huckabee quickly endorsed McCain once he clinched the nomination. They bonded publicly in Little Rock on April 24 during McCain's tour.

Nevertheless, the word is that some evangelicals dispute Huckabee's support. One experienced, credible activist in Christian politics who would not let his name be used told me that Huckabee, in personal conversation with him, had embraced the concept that an Obama presidency might be what the American people deserve. That fits what has largely been a fringe position among evangelicals: that the pain of an Obama presidency is in keeping with the Bible's prophecy.

According to this activist, at the heart of the let-Obama-win movement is longtime Virginia conservative leader Michael Farris -- the nation's leading home-school advocate, who is now chancellor of Patrick Henry College (in Purcellville, Va.) for home-schooled students. Best known politically as the losing Republican candidate for lieutenant governor of Virginia in 1993, Farris is regarded as one of the hardest-edged Christian politicians. He is reported in evangelical circles to promote the biblical justification for an Obama plague-like presidency.

In conversations with me, Huckabee and Farris both denied saying that an Obama presidency should be inflicted on the country. Huckabee was enthusiastic in his support for McCain, noting how well they had gotten along during their primary competition.

Farris is another matter. A vigorous supporter of Huckabee for president, he has not endorsed McCain and may never do so (though he quickly adds that he never would vote for Obama or Hillary Clinton). "I am concerned about what judges [McCain] may name," Farris told me, "and the test will be who he selects for vice president." He made it clear that Huckabee would be his choice, and ruefully added, "I understand he is not under consideration."

At McCain headquarters, no doubt is expressed about Huckabee's loyalty. "I feel we haven't used him [Huckabee] enough," McCain campaign manager Rick Davis told me. McCain's strategists are more concerned that the libertarian Rep. Ron Paul has not abandoned his candidacy, keeps fighting for delegates and says he will not endorse McCain.

Even taking Huckabee's professions of support for McCain at face value, he is not leaving politics for the lecture circuit. He has formed the Huck PAC to back Republican candidates, his supporters have established a Web site (Huck4America.com), and Huckabee backers are behind the Government Is Not God PAC, which aims to discourage McCain from naming Romney as his vice president.

Mike Huckabee has emerged from obscurity to become a major factor in American politics leading evangelical Christians. The McCain campaign counts on him to energize supporters who would rather wait for Huckabee 2012, not to encourage those dreams.
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Major · May 12, 2008

rimrocker said:

Oh dear! And this from Novackula... God and Huckabee want Obama to win!
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Does this mean that Novak is suggesting that T_J is on the side of Satan?

bucket · May 12, 2008

I still think he sounds like jam.

Twisted jam.

mc mark · May 12, 2008

Damn! Between Huck, Paul and Barr, McCain's got some serious mojo working against him.

sucks to be a republican this year

baller4life315 · May 13, 2008

A_3PO said:

For me, selecting Romney would almost make McCain radioactive.
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Why, though? What are everybody's biggest gripes with him? That he's a Mormon that used to be Pro-Choice in 1994? Really, what is so "radioactive" about the guy?

I like Romney because he's intelligent, well spoken, strong on the economy and appears to be strong on defense as well. He's been an advocate of energy independence, against illegal immigration and supports free trade.

I'm sorry but to me, those are big issues and reasons why I have supported him from Day 1. I'm pretty much at the point where the only way I vote Republican is if Romney is on the ticket. Call me crazy, but that's likely my stance.

AntiSonic · May 13, 2008

Ann Coulter fall down in a faint

weslinder · May 13, 2008

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=64149

Rumor Mill: "Palestinian Officials" have heard from "U.S. Politicians" that Condoleezza Rice will be the running mate.

mc mark · May 13, 2008

weslinder said:

Rumor Mill: "Palestinian Officials" have heard from "U.S. Politicians" that Condoleezza Rice will be the running mate.
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Well that would just about complete the "third Bush Term" theme McCain seems to be working with. All he needs now is for Karl Rove to be a campaign advisor and he's all set!

Oh wait...

lpbman · May 13, 2008

weslinder said:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=64149

Rumor Mill: "Palestinian Officials" have heard from "U.S. Politicians" that Condoleezza Rice will be the running mate.
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WTF!? She blew it as NSA, got a promotion to Sec of State. Accomplishes nothing at that job and now she's up for VP? Seriously?

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