<b>i just blame the american, pakistani, and saudi governments for their existance. they didn't really help the afghani people that much nor did the northern alliance. </b> Other then food, supplies, and medicine and humanitarian help the U.S. didn't do a whole lot did they? In fact the U.S. could have just turned around and turned their backs on Afghanistan, of course the same people blaming the U.S. for what is going on would blame the U.S. for not helping a country in need. Besides if you don't like the Taliban, even though he isn't a U.S. creation, you should be happy the U.S. is going in there and taking care of him.
ignorance is bliss huh? taliban isn't a person its a word which means students and its a 'party' or 'regime' which controls afghanistan. hey i think we should kill musharaf and the rest of the isi if we're killing talibans. and yes saudi did support them and create them thats why they got rid of prince turki who was boys with bin laden and their intelligence director. 1.5 milion people have died in the past 20 years due to war in afghanistan..so yeah america didn't too much for the people except help the 'mujahideen' get more weapons so the great communist threat would be over. oh by the way zahir shah is a communist.
You're starting to sound like a Taliban supporter again, boy. I'd be careful... And again, the Pakistanis created the Taliban in order to take control of Afghanistan and draft fighters for Kashmir. Just because there are Saudis there holding Stingers does not mean that the US created them. All it means is that there are Saudis there (following Osama) who have a few Stingers left (from the CIA, 15 years old). And just take a look at how many and what kinds of weapons America gave them. We gave them some FIM-92A Stinger shoulder launched SAMs. They're good to take out helicopters, and that's about it. What kind of assault rifle does virtually every fighter in Afghanistan have? An AK-47 type rifle, and if they're lucky a -74. What kind of tanks do both sides use? Mostly T-55s, a couple of T-62s. What kind of SAMs aside from the Stingers? SA-7/19, SA-6, etc. What kind of AAA? Mostly Gshk -23mm guns, some -60s. All Russian equipment. Except for a handfull of American Stingers (of which they probably have less than 80 missiles, and even fewer launchers left), ALL of their equipment is Russian, and most very old at that. Any new weapons they have came from either Pakistan or China, not the US, so point your dirty fingernails elsewhere if you want to accuse someone of flooding the area with weapons.
im not a taliban supporter period. yet i don't support the northern alliance of zahir shah all that much either. a) they use women as sex slaves b) they are communists c) the people of afghanistan like them even less then the taliban d) they aren't even the lesser of two evils
Go home and kiss your Quran, Taliban. Do us a favor and pick up your AK too, please. We don't want to kill any civilians... Where do you go to school, boy?
Yo Tree, It's Koran We did help create the problems in Afghanistan, but we will also help get rid of them too. We will teach them not to bite the hand that feeds them. ...We are still feeding them...
Do you realize just how r****ded you sound? Your messages read like a State Department briefing administered by someone from "Deliverance." If pointing out the inconsistencies and shortcomings of US policy in the Middle East makes one a supporter of the Taliban please remind me of what democratic values we are fighting for again. Acting like John Wayne on a bender from the safety your PC doesn't help your arguments either, pilgrim.
Boy, keep up the well reasoned posts. It is good to see well reasoned posts that are not irrationally pro-Israeli. It is also interesting to see those who are used to only one point of view reduced to responding with name calling. Don't worry there is still a good portion of the board who can make distinctions even at this time.
glynch & EC: Are you guys going to try and tell me that boy is making sense? I didn't think his last post merited a thought-out response (although I thought his other lies needed a response, if you'll bother looking). Exactly what part of his careful analysis about the Northern Alliance do you guys think merited a thoughtful response? In particular, do you guys really think that there's any merit to the idea that the Taliban would be preferable to the NA??? I usually give a "gobbly-gobbledy-gook" answer to such idiotic ideas, but I decided not to in this case... boy didn't just hint that the Taliban is the lesser of two evils, he flat out said it. Although he claims to not be a Taliban supporter, he obviously wants us to leave the Taliban alone and in power. If you guys want to argue his case, go ahead. This should be interesting... As for our role in creating the Taliban, that is just a flat out lie. The Taliban was created by the Pakistanis, that is a fact. It was created after we abandoned the Afghanis, that is a fact. If you want to believe boy's lies, fine. But I get offended when I hear people blaming the US for this mess; for some odd reason the same people who blame the US usually neglect to mention the Soviets, Pakistanis, Iranians, Saddam, the Chinese, etc. You can hate your country if you want, but don't be surprised when someone who doesn't tries to call someone else out on their lies. And glynch - has it ever once occurred to you that the Israelis might not be the only bad guys in the ME? You know, there are alot of Palestinians who would blow you to little bits if they had the chance...
i will kiss my quran and thank god that i am a muslim. however the taliban would probably jail me cause i don't have a beard...so i doubt i'll do that aks...never picked it up though i do support the NRA most of the times. i did blame pakistan. i did blame saudi. yet america isn't clean of this. i don't hate this country im happier living here then saudi or pakistan or afghanistan. however i do think the policies are sometimes wrong. the best way to fix it is to get in positions and make it more fair. the recent terrorists have been originally supported by the cia or the israelis in some cases a) qaddafi b) saddam c) hamas d) taliban/bin laden
Elvis Costello's post was classic! I don't agree with glynch and "boy", but I know better than to get involved in this again. I do find it funny in reading Treeman's rebuttal to glynch and Elvis how he keeps referring to "boy's" other posts. Just reading him saying, "boy came out and said that the Taliban is the lesser of two evils" was funny not because of the absurdity of that statement, but because of the way the sentence reads. Don't believe me? Read that post again from treeman & everywhere he says, "boy said ...", it will strike you as funny or maybe not..at least it did with me.
