Many of our current and past leaders disagree with you. You cannot be so dismissive about the threat in today's world of WMD.
Did you actually feel like your life was in jeopardy before the war started? I think it is safe to say that most people in America did not feel threatened by Iraq. If any fear was felt, it was because Bush built it up.
While I think the war is the best thing for the people of Iraq I just hate the fact that children are being killed everyday by US. Check This Sick stuff out
Then you should support this war. It is very clear that most Iraqis want Saddam gone. I don't know what you are relying on, but most of what I have read shows Iraqis support this war. Here's one article from a journalist in Iraq: http://slate.msn.com/id/2080655/entry/2081193/ "In general in the Arab world, there's a polarization: Those against the war, who see unilateral American aggression, and those in favor, who think that whatever the price, Saddam must be destroyed. Every Iraqi I have met is of the latter view. "
Originally posted by rezdawg Did you actually feel like your life was in jeopardy before the war started? I believe that saddam was a direct threat to the US, yes. I think it is safe to say that most people in America did not feel threatened by Iraq. If any fear was felt, it was because Bush built it up. [/QUOTE] Not so. As I've mentioned here several times lately, even Clinton's old team viewed Iraq as a direct threat to the US.
No, I didn't really feel threatened. That's a good point. But if Saddam every acquires nuclear weapon capability then I will feel threatened.
Come on Mr. Clutch, you give an article that talks about the Kurds. Of course they want Saddam out. Thats a given. The same feeling is not felt in Baghdad, Mosul, Nasiriyah, Najaf, or Basrah.
Have you considered that the Iraqi government intimdates Iraqis so much that they are afraid to speak out? http://slate.msn.com/id/2080972/ Human Rights Watch has interviewed Iraqi soldiers who've deserted from the Northern front and are now in the hands of the Kurds. The interviews, presumably free of direct U.S. influence, give a good idea of the extent of intimidation by the Iraqi army's execution squads. The eyewitness to an execution said that on March 26, ten deserters were brought to an open field where a colonel had gathered other units to witness the execution. "This is what happens to betrayers of our nation," the colonel told the assembled troops, according to the witness. He then began shooting the alleged deserters one by one; other members of the execution squad joined in. The colonel then ordered the bodies to be dragged up onto a hillside so the soldiers would have a better view of the corpses. To judge from these stories, the Iraqis are executing almost as many deserters as get through, making desertion a riskier proposition than I'd thought. ... One prisoner confirms reports that Iraqi officers "cannot afford to escape because Military Intelligence has a lot of information about them and can easily reach their families." ... 5:33 P.M.
Okay, here's on on Basra: http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030407-025947-4642r BASRA, Iraq, April 7 (UPI) -- The rule of Saddam Hussein is over. Iraq's capital of Baghdad awoke Monday to find American tanks in the grounds of the presidential palace and the second city of Basra thrilled to their first full day of freedom from Saddam's Ba'athist regime. This double triumph of American and British military machines could hardly have been better timed, as U.S. President George W. Bush and Britain's Prime Minister Tony Blair prepared for their summit in Belfast, Northern Ireland. Their war plan vindicated, their critics at least briefly silenced, the two English-speaking leaders who had defied so much of world opinion and conventional wisdom enjoyed another extraordinary bonus as their predictions of a liberator's welcome by the Iraqi people finally came true. Confounding the Arab media and the pundits who had talked darkly of a new spirit of Iraqi patriotism resisting the invaders, the people of Basra braved gunfire to dance in the streets and cheer for the British troops who finally broke the grip Saddam's dreadful regime had exerted on Iraq for so long. This reporter saw one Basra citizen even kiss a British tank. ...
This is ridiculous. First off, its a handful of people. Watch international news stations and you will clearly see the other side of the coin. Yes, I have considered that, but just based on the couple families that my aunts have spoken to, there are many people who have no problems with the regime. They arent terrorists or bad people, they are just content with their lives.
Here's a story from Nasiriyah. http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110003299 Details are emerging about the Iraqi informant who let U.S. Marines know that Pfc. Jessica Lynch was alive and being held at a hospital in Nasiriyah. Knight Ridder reports he went to the Marines "after he saw her Iraqi captor slap her twice as she lay wounded in a hospital": "A person, no matter his nationality, is a human being," the tipster, a 32-year-old lawyer whose wife was a nurse at the hospital, said in an interview at Marines' headquarters, where he, his wife and daughter are being treated as heroes and guests of honor. . . . After he saw Lynch slapped, the lawyer slipped into her room at the Saddam Hospital in Nasiriyah and told her, "Don't worry." Then he walked six miles to the nearest U.S. Marines and told them where she was. He later returned to the hospital, at the request of U.S. commanders, to map the facility and count how many Saddam Hussein loyalists were there. The man, whose first name is Mohammed, says: "Believe me, not only I, all the people of Iraq, not the people in the government, like Americans. They want to help the Americans, but they are all afraid."
opinionjournal.com nice source. You dont find it odd that we dont have much access to information regarding Iraqis who are against the US?
This is correct. The people my aunt knows like Americans also. Does that mean that their life is horrible as it is? No.
Thats not the only place I have seen that man's story, I don't remember exactly where, possibly a British site....and he said the same thing on the other site.
Just because you don't personally feal "threatened" does not mean the threat doesn't exist. I guarantee that most of the people in that Bali nightclub did not feel threatened, nor did the people in the WTC. If the administration is making you feel fear it may be because they are revealing threats that do, in fact, exist. Would it be better that they left all of us in the dark? They are in a no-win situation - if they leave us in the dark and something happens they get blamed for not telling us. If they warn us about situtations and they do not occur (and they may not occur simply <i>because</i> they make the threat public) they get blamed for inciting fear. I think the recent discovery of chemical weapons in Iraq loaded in missiles "ready to fire" is proof that Saddam is/was a threat to the region and, therefor (even if indirectly), a threat to the U.S. and Europe.
Sorry, but Saddam's chemical weapons is not a threat to the US. The only way it is a threat is if we are invading their capital city and they unleash it.
oh ok, I took your post as meaning that you doubted the varacity of the quote because of the site he pulled it from... my bad. carry on
Yeah, its my fault. I noticed that too. I just meant that the source wouldnt give information that shows the other side of the tale.
