Ya'll better start being nicer to Roxran. When he becomes Warlord of Houston in 2012 after the Apocolypse, he'll remember who his friends are, and know who to share the ammunition and canned food with.
I (and at least one founding father) would argue that we're way overdue for a revolution anyway, so it wouldn't surprise me at all - of course, I'll cross that bridge when (if?) we come to it.
I didn't think it was possible, but Fox hit a new low. And, what's funny is I immediately thought of Red Chocolate after reading the first post.
That founding father talked about revolution being necessary to stem tyranny. I don't think Americans perceive tyranny in their government today. Incompetence...but not tyranny.
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Agreed. Although, it would be interesting to see Jefferson's commentary on how closely our current form of government resembles the 18th century definition of tyranny.
That would be academically interesting. But the only pertinent fact here is, what do the would-be revolutionaries think tyranny is?
The revolution will not be televised, will not be televised, will not be televised, will not be televised. The revolution will be no re-run brothers; The revolution will be live.
I mostly agree. Still, the first "revolution" attempt in our country was in response to a sin tax that was really just pennies in the grand scheme of things. I'm pretty sure that if we had the same spirit as our founders, we'd perceive a lot of tyranny in our government today. (I've always thought Whiskey Rebellion would be a good name for a rockabilly band.) 148 years of relatively peaceful transitions of power hasn't necessarily negated the possibility of a revolution, but it has made it much less likely.
With WMD's and a mechanized military another American Revolution or Civil War is much harder to pull off.
I think you're mixing up your rebellions. Western Pennsylvania was represented in Congress, and the revolting farmers had a vote in it.
I think Celente's predictions are over the top but I wouldn't totally dismiss them. If we are just spotting trends I think he is correct that if these trends regarding increasing local taxation and the dangers of increasing Federal Deficit spending continue we could be in trouble. I also think as more people lose their jobs and have to cut back the material focus of Christmas will change. Getting to the point of a complete collapse of social order though we are a long way from there and there are still many things that can happen to address that. I also think the idea of food riots is way off base. There are people going hungry but our country is still awash in food. For most of us while we might no longer afford sushi we aren't going to starve. If the worst comes and our financial system collapses things will get like Russia in the 1990's when people bartered with farmers for food. I can buy that things will get bad but have a hard time seeing things will get as bad as he predicts. Who is the reporter? I would like to have a riot in her blouse.
I would ask the people of Iraq their opinion before anyone starts thinking about rioting or revolution in America. Local police are already wired and trained to let federal troops (actually part of a FEMA initiative) take control in case of national emergencies. There were exercises in Houston just a few years ago for the military, training for emergency response and how to secure transportation, downtown, utilities and government buildings in a national emergency riot situtation. A friend of mine was involved and thought is was very creepy. It won't happen here, our military is too bad ***. Like I'm going out in the streets with my deer rifle Maybe there are wackos who think they could riot and win. Or maybe there would be some disruption in high population areas. But if things deteriorated further economically, I would see a scenario where the federal government would step in and take over everything. Basically something like China today. Yes there might be a destruction of the traditional middle class, but there would still be an America and alot of rich people. This country isn't going anywhere. We will all be just fine, maybe alot poorer but just fine IMO.
I like the somewhat reassuring ending to cap off what was written before. It's hard to imagine the nation worse off that what it was in the 70s. Then again, I didn't live in that era and it was something my parents scared me into being good.
