US General: "the Christian God is "bigger" than Allah, who is a false "idol&quo

Also, our "god" is unique to the individual. So there are as many one "gods" as there are people. But I'm too tired to explain.

 

Sure, that and that you think that Western civilization has been the reason that Muslims now suicide bomb civilians.

DD

 

i guess theres no pleasing you is ther?
its people like you that are always critical of others and nitpick on the little things and forget the bigger picture...

 

I see it in the context that Boykin denounced one underling of a Somali warlord as idolatrous for following a path of violence that violated the most fundamental tenants of Islam.

It would make no sense to a genuine Muslim for Boykin to proclaim his Christian God bigger – because Muslims of this region regard themselves as descendants of Abraham and worshippers of the One God of Abraham, the same God worshipped by their fellow “People of the Book,” Jews and Christians.

Boykin’s statement about his God being bigger (pushed by Leftist media critics as if it were an insult to Islam) has meaning to a Muslim only if intended to convey that this one person was in fact a pagan idolater pretending to be a Muslim while violating the Koran.

 

Once pride enters a mans heart, beware!

And that's what has happened to Bush. His self-anointment is HIS pride. When I look at Bush, I think "peacock."

God does not make good things happen anymore than he makes bad things happen. It is *man* that has control of his decisions and the "good and evil" that comes from it. That's called freewill. God wouldn't have given man "freewill" if it wasn't really freewill.

Muslims are not the enemy. Man is. Or, rather mans susceptibility to pride, greed, lust, sloth, envy, anger, and gluttony. No man or religion is immune.

Satan is NOT a red devil, with forked tongue, ugly, and sinister...No! He's beautiful, smart, intelligent, charming, persuasive, and in a position of great power! Beware, it's easy to be fooled. The location of Satan is not obvious.

 

are you denying you said that?
I saw it..so did many others.
Are you backtracking or tryin to claim that isnt what you meant?

No need for me to reaffirm that what this guy said is exactly what most devoutly religious types believe. but I will...

The basic tenants of Christian faith say that nothing happens that God doesnt want. Specious reasoning at best, but that is what they believe.

The comments he made certainly wont put anyones minds at ease about what we are really up to..but considering him a wackjob is bringing the same judgement down on millions of Christians at the same time.

ne of the reasons why I broke off affiliation with the Baptist church, inability to see the other sides point of view.
Its all black and white with them....either you are with them, or against them.

I personally am of the opinion that while others may not call God by the same name as I do, it doesnt make their religion any less valid.
I believe that my God is the same one that is called Allah by the Muslims..after all...he is the one God..yes?

 

The great Republican lie is that conservatism ((Christians)) is synonymous with capitalism. One must remember that the *Religious Right* also share that ideology with their secular capitalist friends. Also, conservatives. Secular capitalist are apathetic to any religion, as long as capitalism thrives.

Conservative Christians, good people, have been lured into thinking that Capitalism in its-self, is a form of righteousness, i.e. Bush.

But Capitalism can be a path to greed and power. Faith in ones God should not be tied to money. They are separate entities.

 

Thanks a lot, I think that pretty much explains it (coupled with a bit of being mean by having fun seeing MacBeth getting all worked up ). Sorry if I overstepped my boundaries, but I think many other people comment on other people's posting anyway as well (with personal insults thrown in, which I usually leave out). I just feel that it is possible to criticize something someone else does without that person needing to feel like one is attacking the core of their personality and getting all defensive...I still think that most confident people would not really have their feelings hurt by this. And actually, regarding the constructive criticism, it is something people do with each other more the more "familiar/friendly" they feel with each other. I would not tell someone I don't know at all "are you crazy for wearing this pink shirt" but I would probably tell a good friend of mine.

 

Actually, the only person who has called me that here yet was you, so I think I can live with that. (I have however sometimes been accused of being condescending in real life by insecure people when I did not really mean to be condescending, so there must be some truth to it).

Anyway, to stop my derailing of this thread, has that general been fired yet?

 

This General is not quoting Christian principles. Love God above all things- -Love your neighbor as yourself. This is quite a different way and is not that of the General.

 

Which part of claiming that the God you worship will triumph over the God of another religion is civilized? If I wanted to get in line with the civlized nations, I don't know that I would get in line with the one that says things are God will teach the idol worshipers a lesson. In fact that's the same kind of filth that the terrorists use. They often talk about punishing the infidels. So please tell me how this Makes the U.S. look like the civilized country. (I understand that we can talk about other ways the U.S. is great and all that, but just referring to the Genreal's comments. What would make anyone think this is 'civilized' way to go about things.)

This doesn't even tackle the fact that the man is ignorant and Allah and God are exactly the same.

 

The point is. . . . IF he is considered Ignorant of this fact
So are MANY MANY MANY MANY other folx

I maybe able to accept this but
by and large. . . Most Christians AIN'T HAVING IT
AIN'T TRYING TO HEAR IT

The Christians I KNOW will tell you
IF IT AIN'T IN THE BIBLE . . . . . . . .
No Mention of Allah . . .then Allah ain't GOD!!
No Mention of Muhammed. . . . then Muhammed ain't a Prophet
[though I don't understand how we have so many 'modern day
prophets' but that is a different story]

Heck, Jewish Religion sees Jesus as a Prophet not THE SON OF GOD
To Christians. . this is a deal breaker. . . .

To say it . . .and point out the parallels is fine
I am open to the Idea
HOWEVER
MOST ARE NOT

Rocket River

 

Not really. We would still have had WWI, WWII, The Gulf War, Desert Storm, The American Civil War, Viet Nam, Korea, the Russian REvolution, The American REvolution, etc.

Most wars aren't really about religion.

 

SJC condescending?

I've never sensed that. I've sensed maybe...disgust or dismay (as we all have felt)...on a limited number of ocassions for some truly offensive posts, but I don't sense a condescending personality.

 

I understand, and I wasn't even bringing Muhammed into the equation. But there is mention of Allah in the bible. Everytime it mentions God, it's mentioning Allah. If you read the bible in French you wouldn't find the word God in there either. It would be the word Dieu. Are there Christians that you know who believe French Christians worship Dieu and not God? What about the Arab Christians? There are many of them, and in their bible it mentions Allah. God translated into Arabic is Allah. For an Arab to read the New testament, he would learn that Jesus is the son of Allah. I understand there are different views about Jesus, and which son of Abraham did what, but looking only at Allah, Arab Christians pray to Allah, just as French Christians pray to Dieu etc.

 

FYI, my girlfriend is Christian Orthodox, and is Lebanese. Guess what they call God in Arabic: Allah.

 

Heh, heh...

Everyone wants to always say that "their god" is the one true God. That's the problem about being absolute about *everything.* It can blind you too.

Saying that "ones own god" is the true god AWAYS, is one of the biggest forms of arrogance.

Lets not confuse what generals or secular Iraqi militants misrepresent with what Allah really stand for. God is probably looking down on us rolling his eyes because we worry about the little things, and not the big picture.

A few crazy fundamental "muslims" take advantage of the people of a impoverish nation, and the fundamental Christians over here blame Allah, and not the crazy leader.

A lot of the misunderstanding is really all about fundamentalism vs fundamentalism if you think about it. Extremism vs Extremism. My god vs Your god. Blah, blah, blah...

Just like the last 3000 years!

 

As if this thead could be any more derailed, but I just couldn't let this slide...

I don’t think so, I think behind the comment…

SJC was 1) best case scenario--being trivial and derailing a thread because he/she didn’t have anything of substance to say and didn’t like how the thread was going, or 2) holds grudges and doesn’t mind being an ass about it. Based on the next series (just so happened I had just read that thread) I am leaning towards SJC needs get some rest because he/she has been a petty ass of late…

SJC I am sure you are quite pleased unlike Major I fully utilize the replay with quote feature. However may I offer a non-personal suggestion, stick to content in hot threads and leave the style critiques other places because I am sure you don’t want to give the impression you are just being an ass for no particular reason.

 

Thanks for the suggestion. I might consider it. Good to see someone is spending time dissecting my posts in order to criticize me for doing the same with others. So if I am not mistaken you are doing exactly what you are calling me an ass for. Anyway, as I said, thanks for the suggestion.