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US expected to shelve Euro missile defense plan

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by mc mark, Sep 17, 2009.

  1. Ottomaton

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    When you set seemingly random arbitrary boundary conditions so that only your example counts, that is not being honest. It is commonly referred to as "stacking the deck" or special pleading.
     
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  2. Major

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    So you believe the US should install highly ineffective weapons to counter Iran, based on Poland wanting protection from Russia, despite it not being in our strategic interests?
     
  3. Rocketman95

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    and despite our joint chief and sec. of defense agreeing with this move.
     
  4. thegary

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    these weapons would just amount to zits on the military industrial complexion.
    good riddance.
     
  5. mc mark

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    I really don't think basso knows what he wants anymore.
     
  6. basso

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    i'm not convinced by Obama's statement.
     
  7. Ottomaton

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    That, at least, is honest. The relevant factor that causes you to oppose the move is Obama.
     
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    and the joint chiefs' opinions?
     
  9. basso

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    i expect them to concur with the CiC's opinion.
     
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    he wants whatever obama is against. or he's against whatever obama is for. duh.
     
  11. basso

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    no, it's Obama's statement. had W said the same thing i'd feel the same way.
     
  12. Rocketman95

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    bull. ****.
     
  13. SamFisher

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    Watching Major and Otto solicit a rare engagement from basso reminds me of a shower scene from "Oz"
     
  14. basso

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    the one where you're ****ing that chicken?
     
  15. Major

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    Do you believe Bush lied when he stated the missiles had nothing to do with protection from Russia and were designed to protect against Iran?
     
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    It just reminds me of why basso stopped engaging a long time ago. Every time he does, his fundamental intellectual dishonesty gets exposed.
     
  17. basso

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    i don't have W's precise words to hand, but feel free to provide them if you wish. that said, i think the missiles had a stated and an unstated purpose- deckard and i have expounded on both here already- feel free to scoll up.
     
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    "The missile defense system is not aimed at Russia," Bush said at a news conference in Kiev following talks with the Ukrainian president. "It's viewed as an anti-Russian device. Well, it's not."

    Agree? Disagree?
     
  19. basso

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    what point are you struggling to make?
     
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    I'm curious as to why you say that even if this move was to placate Russia, it's 'not good enough'? Seriously, do you think the US is supposed to muscle it's way through everything, and blindly protect allies regardless of other countries reactions? I'm not quite sure if you have any idea about how global politics world.

    I repeat what I said in my first post here, had Obama gone ahead with the missile plans, you would've accused him of idiocy for angering Russia and China leading up the G20, and you're just trying to oppose him without regard to it's merits. Stop pushing your agenda behind long winded sentences and uselessly verbose language and spit it out.
     

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