Gates and the Joint Chiefs of Staff disagree with you. Thank god you are now a member of the fringe minority.
I'm not sure why republicans would suddenly care what the general pubic of those two countries thinks.
looks like the Polish government is none too happy [rquoter]Polish PM wouldn't take U.S. calls Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk confirmed today that he declined last night to take a call from the U.S. informing him of the decision to scrap planned missile-defense bases in his country. Two U.S.-based sources close to the Polish government said Thursday that Tusk also rejected a call from Secretary of State Hillary Clinton — on the grounds that, as the head of the government, he should speak to the president. "Hillary called — and the reason he turned it down was because of protocol," said a source. Questions about the exchanges surfaced in the Polish press after Obama reached the Czech prime minister late last night to warn of the policy change, but did not speak to the Pole until this morning. And the static offers a glimpse at the distress beneath the diplomatic facade being offered by Eastern European leaders. Polish Radio reports today that Tusk confirmed an earlier press report that he hadn't taken Obama's call but denied it was due to "technical difficulties." Tusk said he declined to speak with President Obama during the night because he wanted to “properly prepare for the discussion." A Polish Embassy spokesman noted that Tusk ultimately spoke to Obama, while Clinton spoke to the country's foreign minister. A State Department spokesman wouldn't comment on the details of the episode (updated). The Polish preparation may have paid off however: They are reportedly angling for an American commitment of Patriot missile systems based in Poland, which Poles see, like the larger missile-defense bases, as a partial guarantee against Russian agression (despite American denials that the defenses are aimed at Russia). "I would not describe what is going on today as a defeat for Poland," Tusk told reporters in Warsaw, according to the AP, saying Obama had signaled that "Poland has a chance to win an exclusive position" in the new system.[/rquoter]
care to explain why you all of the sudden care about what other countries think? other than there being a black man living at 1600 penn. ave?
Most of the world was unhappy when we invaded Iraq -- why was that not a problem, but now Poland being worried is a problem? Oh, I think I and everyone with a brain know why. Yes, someone is wasting more bandwidth, yawn.
"We have more to offer the world than just missles" I'm paraphrasing Obama's quote during his visit to Latin america. They do sound like words of a muslim marxist fascist commie czar who wants your first born dead. I'm scared.
yo, i'm really happy for you, and Imma let you keep ****ing that chicken, but i have one of the best arguments of all time: Poland is the country in which the missiles were going to be deployed, and they're an ally- fundamentally different from "most of the world."
not the ones that joined the coalition- and in this instance we're discussing the government, not the "people", however one defines that term.
so those who didn't join the coalition became our enemies? so government is more important than people?
Well of course the few countries that joined the coalition weren't upset - otherwise, they wouldn't have joined. That's irrelevant. Our allies were upset, and you didn't care. Now, our ally is upset, and you do care. Why?
Describe what exactly your point is. Your original statement was: they're an ally- fundamentally different from "most of the world." Explain how that makes coalition members matter but other a llies irrelevant.
you dowdified the statement, and left out the key phrase prior to the parenthetical you quoted: Poland is the country in which the missiles were going to be deployed,
Except that's irrelevant - of course Poland cares because the missiles were going to be placed there. But, you stated they are different because allies are different from the rest of the world. Are they, or aren't they? And what does that have to do with coalition members, your most recent claim?
Turkey was a US ally, and one where troops where going to be deployed for invading Iraq. Their extreme displeasure and outright refusal to allow troops into their country didn't sway your adamant support for invading Iraq.
no it did not, but if turkey wanted our troops to stay, and we pulled them anyway, i certainly would not cite "world opinion" to bolster my case.
this is awesome. this is just a picture perfect example of people hating our president. not like this is news with this poster, but if there could be just one example of this in action, it'd be this thread.
exactly, said poster and the haters have nothing to say of the military recommending this action. as stated earlier, I'll go with their opinion. given their service to this country, i don't have any reason to doubt their sincerity