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US Doesn't Like Outcome of Iraq Election So Tries to block the New Government

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by glynch, Mar 28, 2006.

  1. rhester

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    No that was a horrible tragedy that brings no thought of lightness to mind.

    The rest certainly could be just good luck. I admit that seriously.
     
  2. HayesStreet

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    Fair enough.
     
  3. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Member

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    so why didn't we catch him?
     
  4. HayesStreet

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    Dumb argument. It took 25 years to catch the Unibomber. Do you think that's because we weren't trying?
     
  5. vlaurelio

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    dumber argument. did we know who unibombomber was from the start?
    we knew how is obl, where he was, everything about him and still didn't catch him..

    we even had him cornered in a cave.. why didn't we catch him but send 140K troops to iraq and spend billions of $$$.. with a fraction of those resources I'm pretty sure obl can be caught.. he is worse than saddam right? he attacked the us while saddam didnt..
     
  6. HayesStreet

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    Look, your argument that we didn't want to catch him because we haven't caught him just has no logical basis. One doesn't equate to the other. What we did in Iraq is irrelevant to catching Osama bin Laden. In all likelihood he was long gone from Afghanistan by the time we intervened in Iraq. But hey, as I said to begin with: if you want to propagate that we never planned on catching Osama - feel free. It just marginalizes your opinion because its just plain silly.
     
  7. vlaurelio

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    I think a lot of people question if US really did plan to capture obl or at least question why can't he be caught considering all the resources that were spent to get a bad person in saddam and democratize iraq..

    whats plain silly is to just accept and not even question that obl who has orchestrated 911 and continues to try and plan to harm the us has not been caught.. and be proud that thousands of american lives has dies, tens of thousands of iraqis are dead, billions of US taxpayers money spent, and have a country in the brink of civil war just to get "bad person" saddam who has not harmed us and "lets democratize the middle east using war" iraq..
     
  8. HayesStreet

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    Very few people claim we never intended to catch Osama bin Laden.

    Who does that?
     
  9. vlaurelio

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    nobody will know.. can you read bush's mind? has he never lied?
     
  10. wnes

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    That's a trick (the bolded part). Don't fall for the trap, vlaurelio.
     
  11. HayesStreet

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    Lol. I put the probability that we never wanted to catch Osama bin Laden at.......oh, let's say ZERO.
     
  12. vlaurelio

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    since thus is a dumber argument, can you you give me a better answer why obl hasn't been caught? need more resources? not that important? not that motivated to catch him?
     
  13. HayesStreet

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    A better answer? He's hiding out with tribes in the Pakistani outback? He's dead. He's in Iran. Hell, I'd put better odds on him hanging out with Elvis, Jim Morrison, and Jimmy Hoffa than that we never wanted to catch him.

    Lol - a trick and a trap?
     
  14. vlaurelio

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    you just answered where he might be.. not why he has not been caught..
     
  15. HayesStreet

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    Damn, son. You're like Deckard's signature. Stop running in circles. We haven't caught him because we don't know where he is - he could be in Pakistan, Iran, or a lot of other places. He was more than likely gone before we ever got to the mountains in Afghanistan. He could be dead. Those ARE answers to your query.
     
  16. CreepyFloyd

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    mr. bosh i have no idea what you're talking about....solve my own problems?

    if you guys, an apparent reference to me and my "guys", solved your problems???

    what are you talking about?

    my point is that the tyrants and dictators the US supports would not be in power if there wasn't this support and sponsorship

    look what happened in the 1990s in Dikembe's country, the Congo, the US and the rest of the west withdrew support of Joseph Mobutu and a couple of years later he was gone

    Also, in Iran the US supported a dictator known as the Shah, but as soon as US support shrank, the Iranian people overthrew him in a revolution

    take a moment to think before you start ranting hysterically
     
  17. vlaurelio

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    whose running in cirlces? I asked with all the technology, money, military might of US it cannot capture 1 known person who has attacked and continue to attack the US even after we have invaded and occupied the country he's supposed to be in.. then invade another country, waste thousands of lives and billions and dollars to remove a president who has not done any hard to this country..

    and the best response you have is he probably has left before we got there.. or we don't know where he is..

    so is this another conspiracy theory?

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8853000/site/newsweek/
     
  18. HayesStreet

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    Because its harder to catch one person than to destroy an army. The same thing happened with Saddam except he never left the country.

    Sigh. These are just irrelevant rantings. Put them in your sig and save yourself the trouble of rewriting them in every post, lol.

    Well, yes. That is the most likely explanation. Further, it is far more likely than saying we didn't want to catch him.

    (a) It's a different theory than what you proposed. (b) It doesn't have anything to do with the intervention in Iraq. (c) It is also far from the US 'not wanting' to catch Osama bin Laden, rather it was a tactical mistake in troop placement. (d) Even then we should keep in mind that these are two guys trying to sell books.
     
  19. vlaurelio

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    is that why we decided to invade iraq and not worry about catching obl? because it is easier?

    but in reality, destroying an army is not easier.. look at the mess we're in right now..

    why is it irrelevant, because you cannot respond to it?


    if we really did he should have been caught already

    it is very easy to blame a mistake for something you don't want to happen..
     
  20. HayesStreet

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    Sigh. Your claim that we aren't worrying about OBL isn't even close to reality.

    Quite the contrarian, lol. That's not the Iraqi Army, doofus.

    No, because its not related to our pursuit of OBL.

    I wish it were so, but that is a far piece from your claim that the US doesn't want to catch OBL.

    Non responsive. Glynch usually has more substance and less conspiracy than you. That ain't saying a lot, buddy.
     

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