Now that's messed up. They didn't give the info to the US government. They gave the info to certain members of congress so they could commit treason.
They spied on the executive branch to play the legislative branch against it for the benefit of Israel. Yes, quite unbelievable. Maybe if I put it in a stupid graphic with large lettering, Fox News style, then you'd understand.
John Boehner has come out today and said he is not aware of any information being passed by the Israelis to Congress. Who was this information supposedly passed to? Or is Barack Obama lying about this, too?
Actually, depending on the content, Congress is not necessarily cleared for all confidential information. He's having a "tantrum" because Israel has undermined decades of US policy as well as Israel's own policy by turning its back on a two-state solution that both Republican and Democratic Presidents have aimed for. That hurts the US because it's the quest for that policy that had justified our support for Israel's actions throughout the Middle East. If there is no plan for a two-state solution, then the settlements and other Israeli activities are simply a permanent oppression, and our decades-long argument supporting them as a necessary temporary idea falls flat. Basically, Bibi's decision damages US foreign policy interests in the entire region. So what you call a tantrum is also known as the US defending our own interests and values. If Israel wants to do it's own thing, that's certainly their right - but they have no inherent right to our support if they do so. Israeli ex-ambassadors, former leaders, former Mossad chief, etc have all come out and criticized Netanyahu for his statements and choices. There's no reason the US President cannot do so also.
How do you know Congress is cleared to have that info? It sounds to me that the US is not OK with Israel releasing confidential/classified info to US Congress which implies that Congress was NOT clear to have that info. You might believe that Congress should, but that doesn't mean Congress did have the clearance. And if Congress didn't have the clearance, clearly this is a breach of confidential information... more on the side of the Israel releasing it, but as well as on the receiving end.
With all due respect, you sound like a child. Each member of Congress "is just one person, serving in an office for a limited period of time." There is a difference, however. The President of the United States is elected by all of the people of this country, not just those in one district, or one state. It is our political system at work. When an agent of a foreign country, in this case, the prime minister of Israel, directly interferes in our political system, as the prime minister of Israel has, for the President of the United States to ignore that interference would be a dereliction of duty, in my opinion. So there are consequences. Why you seem surprised that there are consequences is a mystery to me. Obama is doing what I would wish him to do. Expressing, as gently as possible, the displeasure of the United States government with the government of an ally, Israel. Frankly, I'm surprised at the moderation, so far, of the President's response.
Well from what I understand if it can be proven that this actually happened and Boehner and others did know about it they could be charged under the Espionage Act. "According to U.S. law, “espionage” is defined loosely as “The act of obtaining, delivering, transmitting, communicating, or receiving information about the national defense with an intent, or reason to believe, that the information may be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation.” Further clarifying, the Espionage Act, as part of title 18 of the U.S. legal code, states that accepting any sensitive intel that is harmful to U.S. defense or interests is a federal crime, carrying sentences of up to life in prison or execution depending on the state. " If it can be shown that Republicans used the information they received from the Israelis to harm high stakes negotiations with Iran, those actions might well be considered acts of sabotage. http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/0...es-they-could-be-charged-under-espionage-act/ Of course Boehner is going to deny deny deny
How else is the U.S. Congress going to learn what is going on in the negotiations with Iran? Our elected representatives certainly won't find out from the Obama administration until it's too late since the president operates under the theory Congress can read the details once Obama signs the deal (see Obamacare).
I'm not an Obama fan but it is a sad when you support another foreign nation over your own President. Its like my sister, I can yell at her all I want but my neighbor better not open his mouth to her. Too many people in the US seem to support Israel over the United States maybe due to religious faith or religious extremism. Need to bring back the pledge of allegiance. People are so polarized that they'd support a foreign government over our own president. I hate to break it to everyone but there is really not that much of a difference between Republicans and Democrats in the US.
It's time for Congress to double the appropriations for the Israelis. Unlike our aid to enemy countries, the Israelis will use it to further U.S. interests.
When someone credible makes an actual assertion that Congress is not cleared to read or hear this information, which I do not believe is the case at all, I will be happy to pursue this with you further.
It is sad when our president is more committed to appeasing our enemies than to defending the security of our allies and our homeland. Obama is the problem here, along with the people who support this self absorbed narcissistic whiner.
If the administration doesn't make it public beforehand, it will becomes public once a deal is met. Too late for what?
Since these "spies" are reporting information to Congress (our elected representatives), one could easily argue that the information gleaned is not espionage against the U.S. Again, Obama does not communicate information to our Congressional leaders, so it's fair for them to get information in any way possible.
