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Updated 5 year outlook

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Snake Diggit, Aug 2, 2019.

  1. IdStrosfan

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    I agree this is one of the threads I most enjoy.

    I love seeing how every new call up, breakout, or trade can effect this.
     
  2. IdStrosfan

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    I think an update is in order.

    I would say a bit of a dip in 2025 but 2026-2031 looks better.
     
  3. IdStrosfan

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    This aged well, lol

    How about Soto @ $765M
    And
    Tucker at. . . $450M?
     
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  4. Snake Diggit

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    I am planning to update this in Jan-Feb once we can be reasonably sure Houston’s significant offseason moves are done. I’ve posted on the other thread that the summary of impact of the Tucker trade is a net loss of 1-2 wins in 2025 and a net gain of 1-3 wins/yr over 2026-2032.
     
  5. Buck Turgidson

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    You're gonna update the 5 year outlook in the next 5 months? ;)
     
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  6. Wulaw Horn

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    To be fair… does make sense to let the off-season play out.
     
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  7. Buck Turgidson

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    To be more fair...I was being jokingly sarcastic.

    That's what the winkey thing means, right?
     
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  8. Wulaw Horn

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    I know.
     
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  9. Buck Turgidson

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    I'm glad we understand eachother.
     
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  10. Tomstro

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    Buck, have you been up all night posting again?
     
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  11. Buck Turgidson

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    Nope.

    You?
     
  12. IdStrosfan

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    Potential typical 2029 lineup.

    Matthews SS
    Melton CF
    Baez DH
    Smith 3b
    Dezenzo 1b
    Whitcomb LF
    Leon RF
    Janek C
    Altuve 2b

    There is enough potential as well as bust risk there that this could have 6+ guys who are 120 wRC+/OPS+ w/ 25+ HR, or a bunch of 80ish wRC+/OPS+ guys w/ 150 Ks.

    Could be in a new golden era ( or well into a very long golden era) or it could be the sign of a mediocre team that stopped spending.
     
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  13. Wulaw Horn

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    I’d put the over under on guys in that lineup in 29 at 3.5 and bet the under. If it hits over the Astros have developed very well and things have gone extremely well on the position side (or they decided they didn’t care and won’t try)
     
  14. IdStrosfan

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    I agree but just for that exercise I really only had options that are currently in the system.

    Realistically I don't see Yordan, Chas, Meyers, Paredes, or Pena still on this team by 29.

    I could see either Diaz or Yordan. Not both and likely neither. Yordan, Diaz, and Altuve could all very likely have to be a DH 80-100% of the time by that point so having more than 1 on the roster is a huge risk.
     
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  15. Wulaw Horn

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    That lineup would make about 40M and that’s which Altuve getting most of it. If you had 4 guys from that lineup playing every day as credible major league guys that means you’d have another 60M to spend to supplement it- so you should be really good.
    And I got what you were doing. It’s a worthy thought exercize.
     
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    Jeff Bagwell would hit the rest of his 300 Homers for another organization if he was 28 yrs old entering FA next year. Red Sox offer him 50 mil a year for 12 years + the GM job.

    Baseball money is cray
     
  17. IdStrosfan

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    5 years from now many of those guys are in arbitration. Performance in years leading up to that will determine.

    A couple of those guys could be making $8-12M
     
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    10 years ago, this would have been hotmail.
     
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    What's different about the 5 year outlook today vs yesterday?

    There's no real forward thinking plan down on Crawford anymore.
     
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  20. Wulaw Horn

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    Dezenzo and whitcomb would be going into 2nd year of arbitration at the max. Alruve’s contract declines. Pretty sure that’s a 40M tops lineup
     
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