dear god are you all that desparate to get rid of juwan? sounds like the lakers are going to give us absolute crap in return. juwan can still contribute to this team. he has invaluable leadership and experience. he can still score for a pf (not so common in this league), shoot the open jumper, and stretch the defense a little. ok, so he is a little old, has a relatively high salary of 6 mill, and somewhat liable on defense...but what other option do we have? battier, chuck hayes, and novak? that is WEAK.
If all else fails, the Rockets could deal with Portland or Golden State as there are better players in the offering.
Although, Doc Rocket was off when he said "no worries" in the "Mike James expected to sign today thread." Point being, even the most seasoned and well-respected insiders can be a little off. Lets not flame Lakers Pride people, I don't like his moniker anymore than you guys...
If we get D. George n Cook in return for Howard n Head, that will be a steal for the Rox. And if Rox do that then u know Rox are trying to get small and fast at PF like Dallas n Suns. In this scenario I think Battier would most likely start at PF with backup Cook n Hayes and D.George would be an idle backup for tmac. Hopefully this is how the trade breaks down but i highly doubt it. Knowing CD n the organization they will most likely wanna get rid of Howards contract so they will throw in Head to get Mihm. If they do this then i really hope Lakers throw in Cook to make it somewhat better for Rox; if not then i dont know what rox r thinking.
i really think u guys are undervaluing juwon and head, and overrating george and cook. Yes, if the right trade comes around i would trade juwon to get rid of his contract, even if we have to add luther in there. But devon george is NOT that good, he is ok but i would much rather have luther. AND brian cook shoots everytime he tocuhes the ball, he had 1 good game against us, and 1 good game against he mavs, but if u remember its because of him the lakers lost the game against us wen he took a bad buzzer shot and missed, i think hes worse than mike james with that chucker mentality. and pelsae no more 2 for 1 deals, when that 1 player isnt worth the 2, we are alraedy thin as it is
At this moment, there is a 4 team 13 player deal being discussed involving AI. No we are not involved. Odds of success, less than 5%. The names and terms change with every dial of the phone from GM to GM. Those are not high percentages for success in being right if you post something. Does anyone think less of the Doc for being wrong. The fact he is right so often means he isn't sharing until it is almost a done deal. If LP truly has a source, he is letting us in early but that still leaves a low % chance of this happening.
You don't understand how the TE works. It is the Rockets absorbing $4 million of salary with their current trade exception. Thus from their standpoint they are sending out $7.3 million in a separate transaction and getting back whatever salary is left over ($1-2.5 million). A new TE is created essentially by the difference between $7.3 million - whatever salary the Lakers send us outside the $4 million or so we swallowed up with our original TE.
To add to that. Luke Walton, Devean George, Sasha, you guys crack me up. This team doesnt need scrubs like them. All bench and throw together players. I think this team has enough of those. As I was saying, its mighty funny that noone here in LA, from real lakers fans, to boards where they dont play this cheap rumor crap, to the radio hosts, to legit insiders, noone knows a thing about this except, Hoopsworld. Clutch locked the first thread because it was nonsense and this one should be locked to. He also said he in theold thread, that wouldnt share anymore of his info and he comes back and does it again. Then again he says he wont share anymore. If anything, this guy knows how gullible some of you people are and how you'll swallow anything as simple as a few letters like IMPJT if an insider claims he posted it.
Exactly! Everyone is OK with trading our starting 4 for Brian "all I do is stand at the 3 pt. line" 'Cook, and/Aaron "I've fallen and can't get up" McKie? If you're trading Juwon, you better, BETTER get another starter at the 2 or 4 in return not a couple of one-dimensional backups.
Thats quite interesting maybe we could do a Jho, Luther, and first round top 20 protected FOR Dunleavy and Peitrus. I dont like dunleavy as much as the next guy but he is a small improvement up over Juwon. I love Peitrus.
Cook is a great 3 point shooter I'd do that trade if they through in Devon George. The deal would be Howard/Head for Cook/George. That seems like a fair deal if you ask me. Cook a good shooter and George solid 3 ball guy who is also a pretty good defender and very athletic. We'll see how it goes down.
this is insider news is straight from hoopsworld. juwan is better than mihm, if it was true why give him up for trash anyway?
You guys dont see the Lakers enough to make these kinds of assumptions. Believe me, Cook is not the answer
People overvalue Juwan's importance to this team. Good guy, average player, but his game is simply a terrible fit next to Yao and the rest of the squad. The Rockets are better off giving some of his minutes to Chuck Hayes and the other rest to Battier and Novak (or Cook, if he's part of the deal). Active rebounding and the 3 pt shot are both more valuable than the mid-range J game that Juwan brings to this team (his post-game isn't worth much since Yao gets all these touches in the post anyhow). The player pair numbers over the last 2-3 years pretty much shows this team does not play well with weak-rebounding PF who can shoot midrange J and make some post moves, whether it's Juwan, Mo, or even Stro (whose atheleticism is wasted by his lack of rebounding instinct). They were better off with either an active rebounder (Hayes and even Cato in his final year) or a 3/4 tweener who can shoot the long ball (Padgett) at the 4. Hayes, with some experience under his belt, is a better fit than Juwan. Battier and Cook, who can at least play D better than Padgett, are also a better fit. It's a great idea when you can dump a poor fit and his salary by sending him to a team that can actually use his skills. Even if all you do is get rid of the salary and create minutes for other, better fitting, palyers, you do it. If you can get a couple of possible rotation guys with small contracts back, even better. If you have to throw in Luther Head, so be it. Good young player, but replaceable. He's not a superstar. Snyder can give you many of the same things Luther gives you, except he's got 4 inches and 40 lbs on Luther. Stop assigning homer values to Howar and Head
If we are going to trade Howard and Head together, we'd hope to get a starting caliber PF or SG back. None of those guys mentioned in this rumor can handle the starting job for us. Brian Cook is not a better PF than Howard now though he maybe has some potential. Sasha Vujacic is actually a PG and he is not an upgrade of either Head or Snyder. Devean George is a nice backup SF but that's all. And do we really need a backup SF? Chris Mihm is a good young C. But the injury is really a concern. Aaron Mckie is DONE. But if it's Howard for Cook/Vujacic/George or McKie, CD should think about it.
