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Update: Rafer Alston out a week (part of playoffs)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by axaznshortyxa, Apr 15, 2008.

  1. Old Man Rock

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    Sometimes you sound very knowledgeable and other times you sound like you don't have a clue.

    Maybe your letting your emotions control your thoughts? Bonzi had some lousy games where he couldn't make a layup but he also had some very good games for us. I would still do the trade because in the long run it's the best move for the Rockets and right now we need BJax more. But Bonzi is a better low post threat than anyone else on the team save maybe Scola. Oh and Bonzi is playoff tested and a bonafide Spurs killer.

    As for Morey you are right it was not all $bball$. Adelman wanted Brooks and CD said someoneelse spotted Landry and Scola was wanted long time before Morey. Give Morey credit for making it happen.
     
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  2. eyhab27

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    This year will be interesting since Scola can go all the way out to the 3 point line to defend Okur. Also, it will be nice to have offense at that spot to wear out Okur/Boozer.
     
  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    It is my crazy genius.....

    :D

    Bonzi didn't fit here in Houston and his game had seriously deteriorated, sure he had an occasional good game like the Boston one in Boston...but for the most part he was terrible on D, his offense was inconsistent at best, and he could not shoot free throws.

    We needed a backup PG worse than a backup SG/SF.....and when we traded him...Yao was healthy.

    And Bonzi quit on the team last year, he flat out quit.....never forgive..that is Pippenesque.

    Time to move on.

    DD
     
  4. poprocks

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    I liked Bonzi. He gave us a few really good games with his penetration. We did miss him but as they say, we are in a position now with Rafer hurt and between Bonzi and Jackson, I'd have to agree with the Rock, we need Jackson more.
     
  5. jopatmc

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    Let him shoot it. Okur likes the wide open spot up 3, he doesn't like nor can he handle any pressure from a defender running at him. Scola can yoyo that play and make it difficult on both guys. Slide Battier over there and keep Scola on the low block on AK-47 if they put AK in the corner. I'm not worried about Okur. It's DWill and Boozer that we have to hassle the most. They are the most efficient.
     
  6. dookiester

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    scola running at okur from 6 feet away trying to recover from doubling the post is a pretty wide open spot up 3. he's a 38% three point shooter, pretty darn efficient. and he's only been heating up lately. letting him shoot that shot, no matter how hard scola is running back, is not a good game plan.

    there's no doubt dwill and boozer will do the most damage, but you don't want to let okur join the fun as well. like morey said, some guys you just can't guard 1 on 1, but maybe letting them go off is the best way. i'd rather see us try our best to guard deron and boozer straight up and focus our efforts on making sure the other guys don't go off on us. you let okur get wide open 3s and he will definitely make you pay.
     
  7. Jeff Who

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    Remember his daggers in game 7 last year?

    Okurs is very good 3pt shooter, he's been struggling lately but once he gets into right rythm you can't leave him open. You better make him shot fade away jumpers over the top of the defense.

    But hell yes, stop PCN with Boozer Dwill will be the key. We gotta stop them.
     
  8. DaDakota

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    Make DWill a shooter........cover the other guys...zone the PnR.....Rockets win.

    DD
     
  9. jopatmc

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    I disagree on Okur. He's not a proven playoff performer and he had the jitters for the whole series against us last year. You make him shoot it until he proves he can hit it. Okur likes the uncontested 3, that's where he knocks them down, uncontested and in non-pressure environments. In the playoffs with a defender running at him, he is a different player, not nearly as efficient out there.

    Besides if you don't like that, keep Scola on Okur like glue (unnecessary), and bring down Brewer's defender to double on Dwill the minute he starts backing Brooks down. Better yet, double the ball out of DWill's hands before he can even make the move with Brewer's defender. I want the ball in Brewer's hand from distance. Let him have all the shots he wants.
     
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    D-Will got whacked and fell on his back recently a couple of times before sat out the 2nd half in Spurs game last nite. D-Will has a tail bone bruise. So, do we have a hitman on the Rockets?
     
  11. dookiester

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    you're wrong about okur. he did struggle early in the series, but he snapped out of it and shot very well game 6 and 7 and had good games against golden state and the spurs. so while he's not a beast in the 'offs, he's not a proven choker either, and gameplanning around the hope that he'll play worse under pressure is not a game plan. just remember that he and kirilenko were way out of sorts to start the series, but they came back to play very well at the end and were a big part of why we ultimately lost. and he and kirilenko are both shooting better this year than last year.

    and you can't just bring brewer's defender from anywhere on the court. the jazz will intentionally have deron post up so that a shooter is on the wing. they're not going to load the strong side with ronnie brewer and some other non-shooter.
     
  12. Jeff Who

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    I agree Brewer is not a shoter so we should let him shot from the outside. But last game Tracy did a lot of mistakes guarding him, he just gave up on him. There was a penetration and he nad open layups and dunks. You can't give it to him, you can't give it to anybody.

    And we should contain Korver, he is a great shoter especially comming off screens (catch and shot). We should make him takle tough shots, you just can't leave this guy open.

    We also have to make Boozer a jumpshoter, last year it was so easy forhim to get to the rim cause he was guarden by Yao who sure is slower than he is. I don't think Mutombo is good option on Boozer either. Maybe Landry and Scola?
     
  13. jopatmc

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    Chuck Hayes is the defensive answer on Boozer.
     
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    i don't think people realize just how important Rafer is to this team. He's improved tons on his outside shot and his ability to penetrate and make floaters, not to mention he's our only PG capable of getting our team in sets. BJax is a combo guard and Brooks has shaky handles. When Rafer can make his shots, like Doug Collins said, he's the x-factor on this team. He's also our best perimeter defender by far. Losing Rafer is a huge blow to this team, bigger than Yao i'd say.
     
  15. BoomShakalaka

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    Yea thats what I was hoping , but it wasnt against the last game vs Jazz
     
  16. Jeff Who

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    Well he is our best 'big' defender

    But again, having his to guard Boozer will be good for defense but awful for offense.
     
  17. jopatmc

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    Agreed. You gotta put 4 floor spreaders around him. McGrady, Battier, Brooks, and Scola/Landry/Novak.
     
  18. Jeff Who

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    Adelman said in his interviev he is not concerned about defense, I mean he thinks we will be fine. Let's hope he knows what he says.

    But I pretty much agree. Last year the defense wasn't the worst part, it was AWFUL offense. Having only 4 guys on the board in the whole game is awful. We have to make shots especially under Adelman.
     

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