well at least the rockets whould have first offered the 3rd year player option and see if james bites.. and if he still wants the trade kicker, then decide from there.. I understand tmac and yao has no trade kicker.. but theyre making max money.. lets say a vet wants to play for the minimum for us and we know his value is way more than the money he's asking but wants a trade kicker.. we'll probably do it because of the cheap money involved..
man you must be JVG's agent or something way to take the blame off him . . basically JVG is blameless in all things rocket according to some here Rocket River
Dood its just a bad business move for the Rockets. Stop looking at this from from a fan's perspective, and look at it from a business's perspective. I wanted MJ like most here on the forums, but Im glad the Rockets didnt bite. You simply cant hand out these kinds of deals to players, especially for players of MJ status. Suppose CD gave the trade kicker to MJ, what would happen if another FA requested for a similar deal? There is a reason why deals like this are rare, and unheard of for players like MJ. Cuban didnt even want any part of these requests. What does that tell you? Kevin Mchale was just desperated, and this deal will comeback and bite him. MJ and the fans have to understand that the NBA is a business, these guys are getting paid MILLIONS for playing a GAME, they need to stop b****ing and crying.
He got those with/without Mike James stats right off of my post, and I got them from 82games.com Where are the pass-first PGs on the Mavs? Or the Spurs? Tony Parker and Jason Terry are evidence that a shoot-first PG can work on an elite team with other stars. I'm so sick of the mentality that all a PG needs is passing. While it would be nice if your PG could hand out a lot of assists, it would also be nice if he could hit an open shot. It's the OVERALL performance that matters.
JLIII is not on our team. Luther Head is. Regardless, I'm not convinced you will see 40 pts from our current bench players night in and night out.
Concerning James and a Vet I sat face to face with him and that is what he said and I believe him. The rest is my opinion. I know he wanted James- and that was his target for the offseason. And I know what he explained to me as the reasons why. I am shocked we did not do what it took to sign James knowing what I was told. The rest is my opinion based upon what I was told. Also after hearing his assessment of the team and direction I am definately a JVG apologist. I don't like the way he micro manages and puts an over emphasis on perfection, but he is waaaaay smart about bb and the rockets.
It looks to me like there may be a little unsettledness in the front office. Les has brought in Morey and I think CD and JVG are trying to figure out how the mechanics of everything is supposed to work right now. I am convinced that JVG wanted James. I am convinced that CD would have done what he had to do to get James if they were operating the way they had been operating before Morey came along. I'm not saying it is Morey's fault, but I do think Morey's handprints are all over the Battier trade as well as the decision not to offer James the trade kicker or the player option. I sure hope one of our stellar reporters asks CD about those 2 decisions at our news conference today. Why in the world would we not give him a trade kicker and a player option? At the worst, we could let him go if he opted out or we could work a S&T with him if we didn't want to keep him. And the trade kicker is a measly 15%. Come on now, we're talking about a few extra dollars to pay out to trade a guy that we would have been fortunate enough to sign at the MLE when in any other year, he could get a $30 million 4 year deal. Those things all point to something going on in the front office that is not typical.
Do you realize that there is a high possibility of KG being traded if Minnesota fails to make the playoffs for the third straight year? Obviously, he doesnt think they are going to miss the playoffs, but Minnesota is definately not a lock for a playoff spot.
i find it highly unlikely that Morey was the sticking point on James. Mike James is a similar fit as Battier as he rates as highly or better n terms of efficiency and other adjusted stats, fair salary rankings, etc -- precisely the type of things Morey allegedly considers. The Rox wouldn't have bothered with him to begin with (and essentially offered the market price too) otherwise. This of course is presuming that Morey even has the clout to influence decisions that much
Yes, he is rated highly but he is 31. I don't think we have a clear handle on how much age plays into the Moneyball concept.
We have a handle that Mike James tests out very well under it and the Rockets offered him the full MLE for his services, same as everybody else. So obviously, they valued his production as somewhat above that - or else they wouldn't have offered it to him. This is not Morey's move. I'm very confident of that.
Carroll/Les standing on principle vs. the trade kicker/player option - the specifics I still don't think we're positive of yet. Time will tell whether or not that hurt the team. It certainly will this season.
Get over it! MJ is gone! Next season looks like the Titanic waiting to happen. Our only hope is to either sign Anthony Parker from Israelis and Jumaine Jones from the Bobcats!
That sounds weak to me. I can't see CD doing that. Yao and TMac are making what, $12 million and $16 million??? And you are going to stand on principle that they do not have a trade kicker??? I don't see that. Now, I can see the possibility of Les saying no trade kicker for some crazy financial reason, especially if he is positioning the team for sale. But, I just can't see CD standing on that "principle". I think it is more likely that Morey is hanging around expounding on money ball, and all his statistics, and CD is doing his best to incorporate Morey into the decision making since the dude is going to be his replacement. He didn't hire Morey, Les did. There's just not a whole lot of "principle" to stand on here. Especially when you are talking about getting a bargain already on a player that you did dump to begin with. I give CD more credit than that. I would be severly disappointed to find out that he was the stone wall on this one.
I've got a better idea. Trade Juwan and Rybo to Portland for DMiles and Jarrett Jack. Then use the $4.2 million TE to acquire a young player or players that would be attractive to the Raptors. Then at the trading deadline, when the Raptors are sucking wind offer them the said young player plus our 2007 first rounder for Mo Pete. Mo Pete is on an expiring contract. Especially if he tells them he want to move on and they cannot get a deal done, then they should be interested in moving him for a pick and talent. Then we would be setting with Rafer, Mo Pete, McGrady, Yao, and Battier/Miles with backups being Jarrett Jack, Luther Head, Battier/Miles/Novak, Deke, and Lil' Chuckie.
