right, i agree. but if he plays well enough to opt out and seek a raise after year three, that would mean that over the three years he improved his value right? meaning, he was a force. essentially, if you are the rockets, assume worst case that mike kames PLAYS WELL and you face losing him after three years because of it. well, that would be a GOOD problem to have. just look it as a three year deal. if he gets a big raise offer from someone else after year three that we won't match, then let him walk then. on the other hand, the fact that he would be able to command such a raise would have meant that he will already have helped us win games and contend from 2006-07 through 2008-09. you're telling me you don't take that risk? what, are we gambling on t-mac's back holding up and aiming for 2009-10 to make a run? i don't know.
but james said even without the trade kicker, if rockets offered him the 3rd year player option, he would have joined the rockets
its not about mike james.. its about player x player x has been determined the best fit available on this years FA market for the money available to the the rox rox offers him 4 years.. player x asks for 3rd year player option.. rox don't give him the player option.. thats why alot of smart people are upset
How long did it take you to make these up? [/QUOTE]do you think we need more passers or more shooters?[/QUOTE] Passers [/QUOTE]we didn't give him a 3rd year player option which makes no sense since we already gave him 4 years and he was only asking for flexibility[/QUOTE] according to the article above we did offer the option year [/QUOTE]no you bleed rocket management fuel.. sheep..[/QUOTE] You no nothing about me or my thoughts.....flake......
in part i agree. i can't believe our offseason came down to whether we landed mike james...but that was it. that was the buildup. we traded away our draft pick and our depth at PF (what little we had) for a nice role player....all with the hope that there would be a 3rd scorer on the way in the person of mike james. it didn't happen. i'm baffled.
I know this- JVG wanted Mike James badly. JVG preferred a vet player over the #8 pick I believe JVG once had control over personnel decisions. I believe this has changed. If JVG had final decision Mike James would be a Rocket right now. I think Morey has brought a new power to CD's position. Les has obviously given them the final say. I know for certain that JVG wanted a 2 guard coming out of the draft - or preferably a trade for a vet. 2 guard. He didn't get a 2 guard but I think he had obvious input on the trade at least signing off on it. But I do not think he is happy at all we didn't get it done with Mike James. This shows me at least there is a shift in power structure down there. I would say that if we don't do well in the playoffs this season, JVG could be moving along.
a 15% kicker should not be that hard to work given the current 25% exemption. A little tricker, but very workable and just a little tightered than the previous rule 15%. Looks like Les' call. Freaken Great.
James has only played 4 full seasons of basketball in the NBA. He hasn't averaged more than 32 minutes until he went to the Raptors. I don't see a reason why he can't last until he is 36.
Those were highly embarrassing and suspect moves, Manny. No question about it. I don't share yopur pessimism about the season, and I still think we'll end up with some good players before this off-season is over, but those moves were more than a bit lame. We've had a very good rep around the NBA as a destination, but after this, you have to wonder. If Tracy were healthy for sure, and the league knew it, I honestly don't think it would matter. Players want to play with Yao and Tracy. The uncertainty surrounding the Rockets now, however, can't be good. It can't be good at all.
wouldnt you be bitter too? i wouldnt want to play for the rockets organization either. do you think hakeem is coming back even if he was aske dto work with yao?? no.
it depends on the situation. Say James make $5m and we wanted to trade him for a player that made $4m. Normally,that deal is doable.With the trade kicker,you can't do the deal unless the team that your trading with has cap space. As I said, it's like a mini BYC...it's not impossible but it does limit your options.
I don't believe that the concern was about James being able to last for four years. It's more related to his effectiveness. Most of the time, players skills begin to diminish in their mid-thirties.
Alot of this comes down to a lack of patience and JVG has none. Trading Mike James for Alston, getting rid of Scott Padgett for Rybo, signing Stro and not playing or experimenting with him, and burning the #8 Gay + Stro on Battier. It's very frustating to say the least and also shows the rest of the players in the league that this current rocket regime has zero loyalty to their players. To be quite honest with you, I have no PATIENCE for these kind of moves anymore and it's either put up or shut up for JVG this coming season.
Wow. A 4th year option and a trade kicker was what was holding up the deal? I put the blame squarely on... MIKE JAMES For a guy that is boastful about his skills and talent, he sure is worried that he might be trade bait later on in his career. For a guy that wanted to "win", he sure did pick the worst team to sign with. For a guy that expects to be Robin to Garnett's Batman, he'll sure have a heck of a time with Randy Foye and Ricky Davis there. Congrats to James though. He "paid his dues", got his "respect", but I most certainly gave him too much credit in the intelligence quotient dept.
But Mike James is a short tweener guard that relies almost exclusively on his athleticism and quickness. Once that falters, he's done. Tracy McGrady and Yao Ming don't have trade kickers, Mike James shouldn't have one either. The only concern I have is that we won't have cap space anyway till '09, so why not?? Oh well..
