Based on what the injury looked like, I think almost all of the comments here are off-base. Kwame poked at him from behind and hit him in the elbow. This means that it was a nerve injury, not a strain or sprain. Those injuries are completely different. A friend of mine was riding on the subway in Boston when the car came to an unexpected stop. At the time, he was standing so that his elbow was at waist level, with his hand near his shoulder. Anyway, when the car stopped, it caused his elbow to slam into a metal bar, right where his funny bone is (actually it's the gap where your nerve threads through your elbow, and is exposed). Long story short, he was in extreme pain for the next day, and continued to feel mild tingling in his fingers and forearm for the next two months, including some periods of random throbbing pain. Based on the video, I think this is pretty similar to what TMac may experience, though hopefully his injury will not be as severe. This is rather different from a sprain or strain. Those injuries can be physically addressed by using an elastic brace, so that there is less pressure on the ligament. Playing with those injuries (or even broken bones) is more a matter of pain management if a suitable brace (or taping) can be found. Once the adrenaline gets flowing during a game, the pain also becomes a little easier to ignore. The danger with a nerve injury is that it is possible he may have reduced coordination in his arm until it heals. He should be able to play again soon, I just hope it doesn't screw up his shooting. Off-topic: Hockey is for losers. Anyone can play hockey with a broken collarbone. That's because in hockey you can just ram into somebody else and then bash them in the head and the announcer will say, "This is a great hockey game!"
Dookie, T-Mac's was a glancing blow that caused his arm to whiplash which caused his arm to bend backward which caused the strain.. Dwade's was a direct blow to the shoulder. You got punked on this one, deal with it brotha.
sorry i know i said i wasn't going to post again but you make it too easy man. the purpose of a debate is not to contradict every statement someone else makes; its to get your point across and hope your argument wins the day. your quibbling with doublehh03 over whether or not tmac has suffered any other injury at all besides his back over his 10 year nba career to demonstrate that he is fragile is like arguing about global warming, proving that the sky is blue, and then saying you've won the argument. unless your sole point this entire time has been that in 10 years of playing in the nba, tmac has missed games because of injury, then you have failed miserably at debating your point. since your point is that tmac is fragile and this elbow injury is proof or a result of his fragility, you have failed to persuade anybody. debating tangents does not affirm your main point.
sorry not to argue with you but it seem to me that he got injured when his arm hit luke walton but i'm not sure i didn't see the game a second time to be sure
He should get 100% better before he returns. Meanwhile, we may lose some games so that Steve gets the chance to play along with Yao. With more maturing banches, we'll get more chances in the Playoff.
ok just to tie up a loose end... http://youtube.com/watch?v=zbu5qKSfzb8 watch that collision and watch tmac's collision again. if anything, tmac suffered more of a 'direct blow' to his injured body part than wade. the TYPE of collision was EXACTLY the same; each player extended their arm and got it caught on an another player headed in the opposite direction. you're quibbling about degree but you're too stupid to know it. it's purely by chance that tmac didn't suffer wade's injury, or vice versa. with more force and a different angle, maybe tmac's shoulder would have sustained the brunt of the blow instead of his elbow. if wade had come from a different angle, maybe his shoulder wouldn't have born the brunt of his. the ultimate fact is that both players were involved in a collision where an extended arm collides with force against a player heading the opposite direction.
I knew you were going to post. I made you look bad again. The fact that you did post again shows me you have a little backbone. Hopefully it's not as fragile as T Macs. Go back and read my explanation of how a forum works. It apparently did not sink in. Doublehh03 said he had only 1 type of injury and I proved him wrong. Pay attention. I responded to a specific statement that was made. He has missed games 10 times because of various injuries (mostly back related) in his short tenure here. I have failed to persuade you because you are just not that that smart (as is evident by your failure to grasp the simple concept of my responding to the specifics of a statement directed at me). It was minor contact and he got injured again.
If maybe aunt had nads she'd be my uncle. You do know that Tmac's injury came from the whiplash after he brushed against Walton? Wade's arm caught solid against the defender (head on collision)and that caused it to dislocate from his shoulder. T-Mac's was just a bump and release (sideswipe)with Walton's body.
Looking at the Wade injury and the angle his arm was in. I'd say it's a good chance he tore the same tendon I did. Extending my arm outward from my body is extremely difficult at this point in my recovery. His arm was extended outward and stiff at the elbow when he made contact with the defender. Something had to give in that collision.
alright i recant. i'm not going to stop because i'm having too much fun. clearly tmac and wade did not have the exact same collision, or else they would also have the same injury. that you're even trying to argue they weren't involved in the same TYPE of collision is akin to a little child refusing to believe that santa claus isn't real after seeing his parents putting presents under the tree. you can use whatever words you want to characterize the two collisions, the fact remains that both collisions involved players extending an arm, catching it on another player heading the opposite direction. in both cases, the injury is a direct result of the arm colliding with another player. so here's a simple quiz to test your intelligence: 1. did dwyane wade sustain an injury from having his extended arm collide with an opposing player? 2. did tracy mcgrady sustain an injury from having his extended arm collide with an opposing player? if you answer yes to both, then you agree with me, and the both injuries resulted from the same type of collision. if you answer yes to 1 and no to 2, then how would you characterize mcgrady's arm colliding with luke walton's body? realize that calling it a 'glancing blow' or a 'brush' does not change the fact that mcgrady's injury resulted from his extended arm making contact with luke walton's body.
Wade dislocated his shoulder on a similar collision. Its surprising how people underestimate or don't understand the term of a freak accident.
That's exactly what I said to him......but apparently he thinks that it doesn't/shouldn't hurt at all. Imao, these people who are hating on Tmac forgets that he shot those two free throws after getting injured. You could see the pain on his face yet he them anyways, and people clapped for him too. Screw these un-loyal and dissenters that call themselves Rockets fans
If you getting clowned is fun for you, have at it. How far do you want to take your type of collision? They both happened on a basketball court, so does that make them the same type of collision. One arm was flexed and made contact and bounced off and the other jammed the shoulder violently backward because there was no bend in the elbow. Players make contact like McGrady's play after play and most of the time keep on going. The type of contact Wade had most always causes injury. You can keep on this type of injury thing all you want, it doesn't change the fact that McGrady frequently misses game for a variety (but majority of the time back related) injuries. He's fragile. He can't stay healthy. You can't argue that and win, but somehow you are dumb enough to keep trying. He sustained an injury because his arm was in a locked position when he made violent contact with another player. His injury was the result of a direct blow. He sustained the injury after his bent arm had a fairly normal amount of contact with another player and then bounced off a player. The injury occured as his arm whipped backwards. He was not in contact with the defender when the injury occurred. His injury was the result of backward momentum from fairly normal contact Under your line of questioning, you could say that any injuries Kermit Washington sustained to his knuukles came from the same type of collision because his arm was extended when it collided with Rudy T's face. Is any of this relevant to McGrady being fragile. No. The collisions were not the same type. Just as hitting a parked car at full speed and glancing off a car at full speed are different types of collisons.
And if I don't get hurt. Then what? I've played basketball for years and have had that same thing happen going for steals and didn't get hurt. If I do get hurt, so what? I still wouldn't have had the injury history McGrady does. He's fragile. 10 injury abscences in a little over 2 seasons. That's a lot.
God you are starting to get annoying. GOOD GOD YOU ARE THE MOST ARROGANTLY DIMWITTED PERSON I HAVE EVER MET IN ANY FORUM. IF YOU THINK YOU'RE SO TOUGH THEN WHY DON'T YOU JUST GO F**ING PLAY IN THE NBA. O WAIT YOU'RE NOT EVEN GOOD ENOUGH TO MAKE IT TO THE COLLEGE LEVEL. GETTING HURT FROM PLAYING WITH AMATEURS SAYS A LOT ABOUT YOU. GET A LIFE
