Instead of blurting out a bunch of stupid crap, try explaining how T-Mac isn't fragile. It's going to be tough since you are admitting he's got a fragile back. I'm not saying he's not tough, I'm saying he gets injured more easily than most other players. For that matter, Yao is fragile too.
fragile means getting injured all over the place: the hip, the elbow... like allen iverson (the cheap injuries). that's what u call fragile. sure he comes and plays b/c those are cheap injuries and u can play through them but he basically has an injury all over his body. tmac's main injury and basically the only injury throughout his career has been the back. that's not fragile. and the back is basically the BACKBONE of your entire body. actually, i applaud him for playing through that and not get surgery. i can't imagine myself getting multiple back spasm and putting myself to near death w/ the pain (which i have had w/ back spasms). if u never had one, PLEASE DO NOT COMMENT on the severity of it.
Its assumed in there.....TOH fanatic. He's been playing WITH a bad back, whenever he going hard up for layups or dunks, or diving for loose balls (and yes he does it occasionally). But the smallest bump to the back or an akward landing can stiffen it up. I know that he's not the same warrior like Kobe or Dwade, as I've said before, but everytime he steps on the floor, he is essentially risking worsening that back. I would say it would be a different matter if it was his left arm, but this is his RIGHT arm-the arm he uses to shoot with imao-so you cannot blame him
i wonder what he's going to say since dwade came back LATER than he should have since the doctor cleared him like what? 2 weeks ago and he just came back. is he soft and fragile too?
dookiebrain, Dwayne Wade had a shoulder injury. Tracy McGrady had an elbow injury. You do know those are 2 different body parts, right. They had different types of collisions too. Wade had a much more violent collision. On a side note... I know a little about shoulder injuries, I had full thickness rotator cuff surgery on the tendon that attaches the supraspinatus muscle to my shoulder 2 weeks ago. The shoulder is the busiest intersection of your body and quite often has a lot of degenerative wear and tear that lead to tears. Dwayne Wade dislocated his shoulder. When you dislocate your shoulder from the socket you stretch or often tear one or more of the the group of muscles that form your rotator cuff. Your rotator cuff is responsible for your shoulder range of motion and for keeping your shoulder in place. You insist on making conclusions based on statements I did not make. The bottom line is that the guy has been out of action for injury or illness 10 seperate times since he has been here. He's fragile. The hip injury he had before was in a minor contact play too.
Wade does not have McGrady's history of injury. You do know that McGrady missed games with the Magic too. Hip and knee problems......
You're not the Lone Ranger, I've had back spasms too. He had a knee problem and hip problem in Orlando. Missed games because of.. Back Knee Hip Elbow hmmmm..maybe he is fragile.
so what you are saying is that he missed games because of back,knee,hip and elbow injury in his ten years in the league so he is fragile?please stop it.name 1 superstar that didn't miss games with several kind of injuries.
i'm not making conclusions based on statements you never made. you said very plainly "T-Mac is more susceptable to injury because he's more fragile than most players," and asserted tmac's elbow injury is further proof of this. plain as day. what is also plain as day is the fact that you haven't contested either of my 2 explanations of why such an assertion is idiotic, but i can't blame you because you don't have any rational argument to make. meanwhile, YOU are making a conclusion based on a statement I never made. i NEVER said wade had the same injury. i'm well aware that wade injured his shoulder, not his elbow. i said he had the same "TYPE OF COLLISION," which is the subject we've been discussing all along. your opinion, based on your statement "I'm saying that I've seen the same type collision happen to other players and they don't sustain an injury from it," is that since tmac is fragile, only he would be injured by this TYPE OF COLLISION. that is clearly not the case. wade and mac were involved in the EXACT same TYPE OF COLLISION: arm extended out and caught with another player heading the opposite direction. just because they suffered different injuries, doesn't make the type of collision different. if you drive a car into another car and you suffer whiplash while your passenger only suffers a bruised collarbone, it doesn't change the fact that you were both involved in the same type of collision. my conclusion from all this, based on statements YOU made, stands: using this freak accident to support your assertion that tmac is fragile is idiotic. the bottom line is that you're an idiot, and i'm still waiting for you to prove me wrong. and on a side note... thanks for the unnecessary tangent lesson on shoulder anatomy. did you also know that the elbow is responsible for the flexing and straightening of the arm at, you guessed it, the elbow? and without this full range of motion, on the shooting arm no less, any basketball player would be just as useless as a player with a shoulder injury?
I was responding to the claim that back problems were his only injuries. If you're not going to say something relevant, please don't respond to my posts.
his post was actually entirely relevant, because if numerous nba players miss games for the same reasons (hip, knee, ankle, etc.) then you can't use them as examples for why tmac is fragile. missing a couple games for random injuries is something every single nba player experiences.the only thing setting tmac apart in terms of fragility is his back, so that should be the only injury relevant to this discussion. you bringing in extraneous injuries is irrelevant, so maybe you should stop posting.
Your explanations were babble. It was minor contact and once again, we don't have T-Mac's services. He didn't have the same type of collision. T-Mac just brushed in to a player and his are whipped back a little. Wade hit the other player full force. Your comparison is idiotic and useless. Using your car scenario, one car had a head on collison and the other was sideswiped. The collisions were different, so don't try to compare them. and on a side note... Sure I know that. FWIW... I also know that the shoulder is a much more complex joint than the elbow. And again, for the millionth time, I never said McGrady can play with this injury. One more time, you make a stupid point to defend yourself with.
thank you .seems that the guy doesn't know what he wrote.i wasn't going to post anything cause i don't want to get into arguments with people but hey i just had to answer him.
what are you talking about man? now you're just talking out of your ass. did you even see wade's injury? it was EXACTLY THE SAME. the degree of injury was obviously much worse, but the first thing EVERY reasonable nba fan thought upon seeing tmac's injury was DWYANE WADE. degree =/= type. you obviously don't grasp analogies well, because dwyane wade: tmac is not head-on collision: sideswipe. it's more like head-on collision at 120 mph: head-on collision at 60 mph. get it? i'm done. i hope i'm not the only one reading your responses and laughing at your incredible stupidity. if you want your arguments to get completely shot down again, you can just copy/paste and keep arguing with any of my original posts because they're absolutely infallible to your argument.
Are you really this thick? The way it works many times in a forum is..... One person makes his points in a debate. The other person can chose to respond to only that person to debate a particular statement or set of statements. That's what I did. When doublehh03 said... The back is really his only injury. I responded to that person, doublehh03 (not you or anyone else) to successfully contradict his statement. Try to keep up with what's been said to you and don't worry about the azzwhoopin doublehh got. I brought in injuries that doublehh03 said were non existent.
I just want him to get better, no matter how long it takes...I'd rather him be out now than him coming in and out of injury later down the line...
hahhahaa yeah i know.but hey if you continue to argue with him it will never end .and for the record yeah people jump in a debate when one people is talking s... and that's to correct him
