Does that make you the model citizen for Rockets fans? Because you like every piece of trash on the roster and will support them to world's end? You'd even take a bullet for Rafer?
ok so i just wanted to recap and give a brief summary of this thread in case anyone's missed out: SmitingPurpleEm - idiot IC2000 - idiot drich - idiot Ill-Skillz - idiot YallMean - idiot Astockmarketgod - idiot and maybe also douchebag
this guy can't even see what he is when he labels people, the biggest YOF in the world and the most delusional.
a guy that still plays w/ a history of severe back spasms is fragile. u do know this injury caused larry bird to retire early right? tmac is still playing at a top 5 level after a serious bout of back spasms 2 yrs ago and could play until he's 33-35 now. outside of the back injury, really, what other injuries have kept him out? he played despite knee tendonitis last yr (and that's why u saw that tape around his knees all the time) and one other injury. if dude is fragile, then your standard must be never miss a game despite breaking your leg off.
He needs a sling... these are slings. This is a cast. If he had a cast on, McGrady would be out much longer than if he were only in a sling.
You are not very smart, are you? When I said it wasn't bent back very far that falls in line with my statement that he's fragile. Just because your pea sized brain doesn't process logic very well doesn't change my statement of calling him fragile in to saying he's not injured. You do realize by fragile that I am saying that he's easily injured, right?
AGAIN, outside of the back, tell me another injury that he misses games consistently with? so when you say "easily injured" that means he must get injured a lot. u do know what fragile means right? maybe your brain is smaller than a pea.
Are you saying his back isn't fragile? Are you saying that he hasn't been injured on plays where nothing major seemed to have happened? Are you saying that McGrady hasn't frequently exceeded the timeline he was supposed to have returned to action in? Don't because then you would look as stupid as Dookie.
no i understand your "logic" friend, and that's why i called you an idiot. your logic is that tmac is fragile, because apparently the only type of contact that would make a non-fragile player miss time is if any given part of the body visibly bends to a degree that satisfies your medically trained eye. this is exactly what you're saying when you say tmac is fragile, since the elbow didn't bend that far. tmac IS more fragile than alot of players, there is nothing wrong with that statement. but using this injury and supporting it with the proposition that any other non-fragile player sustaining an elbow injury in which the elbow is not "bent back very far" would just play through it, is idiotic. accordingly, the person making such proposition is, i'm sorry to say, an idiot.
Where did I say that someone else would just play through the injury? I'm saying that I've seen the same type collision happen to other players and they don't sustain an injury from it. T-Mac is more susceptable to injury because he's more fragile than most players.
so you're saying a person w/ back problems are fragile? does he have any control over that? he has had that since high school. u do know A TON of players retired with back problems right (larry bird, larry johnson... just to name some known players). larry johnson said back spasms are so bad that he thought he would killed himself at one point. so for tmac to keep playing on his "Fragile" back, well, u don't know how tough he is. get yourself a back spasm and talk to me. exceeded the timeline? he has not done that actually. last yr w/ his only back spasms, he thought he would be out several months but patterosn got him to go back 2 days AFTER TREATMENT. the yr before in 05-06, he RUSHED BACK multiple times and that's why his back was never healed and he got it over and over. so again, just don't talk.
and u do know EVERY movement affects the back right? that's where your spinal cord is? and u do know there are a TON of nerves there right? u can just wake up on the wrong side of a bed and get back spasms right? or a cold weather can give you a back spasm too right? yes, the small things to a back?
Yeah...he has a fragile back...you can't deny that. Rushed back? He was well over the initial timelines every time before he came back from injury. Agreed that he did better with Pattersons help last year. I've had back spasms before. I know how bad they hurt.
Thats what I said too. The guy's been playing with back spasms his whole life, heck, he was taken out on a stretcher too. Oh, but that's not serious at all right? And I guess these haters thinks that Kevin Everett's near paralysis constitutes as a sign of weakness too? Seriously, don't listen to these wimsical "Rockets" fans that they claim to be, because once you think about what they're saying, its histerical: a bunch of guys who WATCH basketball criticizing the toughness of a professional athete. I wanna see them play one game in the nba, and I'll bet they will come back sitting in a coma. Then I'll laugh
fine, so you're arguing something even more untenable than the proposition that a non-fragile player would play through the same injury that tmac suffered? that tmac only suffered this injury because he is fragile? where do i begin.... 1. the only significant time tmac has ever missed has been because of his back, a chronic problem. to my knowledge, tmac does not have fragile elbows. nothing in his past history should give me or any other person reason to believe that his elbows are any more susceptible to injury than any other player in the nba. you've seen the same type of collision happen to other players without getting hurt? i've seen the same type of collision happen to dwyane wade, one of the league's most durable players, and it required surgery. the obvious factor here is DEGREE. tmac bumps into players every single game but he's never suffered this injury before. however, he unfortunately knocked his elbow with walton's body at an awkward angle and with excessive force. nobody can say for certain whether under the exact same conditions someone else would or would not sustain the same injury, but to conclusively assume the latter is, you guessed it, idiotic. 2. tmac's back is fragile, and as a result tmac's fragility is directly related to the condition of his back. i agree with that. but tmac's ELBOWS have NO RELATION to his back. i can't fathom a scenario in which having a weak back results in having weak elbows. to take one freak injury and correlate it to a chronic problem and use it to support your conclusion that tmac is more susceptible to injury is, you guessed it, idiotic.
