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[Unverified]Houston Made An Offer To Milos Teodosic

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by abc2007, May 13, 2010.

  1. Jontro

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    I would think their skills are what gives them popularity, at least in sports. I don't think any sane basketball fan would call Sasha a star.
     
  2. optAmystik

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    Those two possibilities go hand -n- hand.
     
  3. chenjy9

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    I am not crucifying him for not being CP3, D-Will, or Nash. Hell, I thought it was obvious that I don't think anywhere that highly of him. The dude was a late pick who had spent time in the D-League. See, the difference between me and AB fanboys (aside from their obvious man crush) is that I am able to view Brook's abilities in respect to the team. I love his scoring and quickness, but I am also not blinded by it and am able to see his significant deficiencies. Some he can work on and some he probably cannot. Lets explore it shall we?

    - He shoots too many threes; 40% of his career shots have been threes. It is a lot more inefficient to jack up a three when he can easily penetrate in for an open step back jumper that has a lot higher chance of going in. He has done this a bit more, but he still looks first usually to bomb away from long distance.
    - When AB penetrates, he does not attack the rim. This is evidenced by his lowly FT attempts. When you attack the rim consistently, you can easily opposing bigs (lets face it, most bigs in the NBA now are not very good shot blockers or defenders against quick guards) and, by extension, the team into foul trouble. With his high FT%, it will usually translate into an additional and 1 or two easy points. I don't know if its because he does not like contact or if he is afraid of getting blocked, but he needs to take it to the rim much more.
    - His court vision and therefore playmaking sucks. Sure he can whip out a fancy looking pass every now and then, but lets be serious here; this is the NBA and anyone can throw a nice pass every now and then. IMO there are two types of court vision; innate and insight. It is obvious that AB was not born with good court vision, so that leads us with insight. With his shoot first mentality, I seriously wonder if AB will ever accumulate the experience needed for developing insight about not only the flow of offense, but the flow of the entire game.
    - AB is a porous defender. While he can normally stay in front of his man due to sheer speed, he is too small and slight to fight through screens nor does he have Battier's level of intelligence to consistently predict the offense. This will improve with experience and creativity if Brooks is willing to devote attention to the defensive end.
    - Due to his small stature, he is horrible at making entry passes and has to make bounce passes to Yao. Bounce passes are really bad when trying to pass into the paint, because there are a lot more opportunities to cut off a bounce pass and if he throws too fast a bounce pass, Yao may just as well lose it with his bumbling hands.

    AB is great at scoring, but that is the only skill he offers. While I would not go as far as calling him a one trick pony, but he is and has always been a very one dimensional player. Obviously we needed that desperately last year with Ariza as our 2nd/3rd option, but with Yao returning and an even better team, the importance of AB's only skill set is potentially diminished somewhat. I say potentially, because no one knows how good Yao will be. Now I am not saying that we trade him now or demote him to the reserve. As much as I feel Lowry is a better contributor, I am willing to wait and see how he does with Yao back in the lineup. However, that does not mean that I won't drop him without a second's worth of hesitation if it meant improving the team.

    Another thought to consider; a lot of people think that AB is a borderline All-Star who can turn into a star. No true All-Star or star player are one dimensional players. They are All-Stars and star players, because even when they are unable to score, they can still help their team win consistently in other ways, whether it be defense, court vision, rebounding, or something else. Until AB shows he can do more than simply score, I cannot see him being anything more than another Nate Robinson or Ben Gordon; a spark off the bench.
     
  4. chenjy9

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    Josh Childress was considered a star in Europe.
     
  5. DaDakota

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    Brooks detractors are constantly exaggerating his weaknesses.

    1. His court vision was ok, and showed remarkable improvement as the year went on.

    2. His defense was pretty good at times, could use work at others, but he was not all that bad, pretty average to be honest.

    3. Brooks shoots too many 3s....if you make them at 40%, keep shooting Aaron, that is a huge advantage.


    Aaron Brooks is a borderline NBA all star player, and is only going into his 2nd season as a full time starting PG.

    That is not kinda good, it is ****ING great.

    DD
     
  6. mFt82

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    "Blah,blah, blah... Yadda... Yadda... Yadda..." whatever. Brooks is a quality player who has Really Effin' High trade value right now and so, if Morey can pull it off, he's going to be traded to improve this team.
     
  7. chenjy9

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  8. larsv8

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    Uh... 40% 3 point shooting is the same as about 60% on twos, not sure where your "much better effeciency" is coming from.

    40% from 3 is outstanding.
     
  9. Danbury

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    I say no to any Greek player just because of what it does to Clutchfans. Spanoulis was a nightmare.
     
  10. mFt82

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    "Blah,blah, blah... Yadda... Yadda... Yadda..." whatever. Brooks is a quality player who has Really Effin' High trade value right now and so, if Morey can pull it off, he's going to be traded to improve this team.
     
  11. DaDakota

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    Quality post is quality.

    Serbian

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  12. mFt82

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    And I hope he IS traded if it improves this team, which I believe it will.
     
  13. chenjy9

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    40% means that he has less than a coin toss's chance to score any points for us. 60% means he has higher than a coin toss's chance of scoring points. I will gladly take the 20% increase over that one extra point. Don't get me wrong, I think that 40% 3pt shooting is great, but I do want to see him doing it less and penetrating more for higher chances of scoring.
     
  14. chenjy9

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    AB will leave if a) we trade him to get a star as he is a lot easier to trade than Martin or b) he wants more money than we are willing to give him. He is going to want at least $8 million next year.
     
  15. mFt82

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    "Blah,blah, blah... Yadda... Yadda... Yadda..." whatever. Brooks is a quality player who has Really Effin' High trade value right now and so, if Morey can pull it off, he's going to be traded to improve this team.
     
  16. Tom Bombadillo

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    5 shots from three at 40%= 6 points
    5 shots from two at 60%= 6 points
     
  17. wekko368

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    Except Brooks shoots 2-pointers at 45%.
     
  18. chenjy9

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    That is in a perfect world scenario. That 40% comes from an accumulation of a bunch of three point shots, whether they are contested or not. I am not saying I want him to not shoot threes, just less of them and penetrate inside more for easier shots. This way both his FG and his 3PT % should rise along with his scoring efficiency.
     
  19. chenjy9

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    The few ones he shoots he makes at 45%. If he is smarter about offensively (the one area I genuinely believe he can be), it should be a lot higher with his speed and stroke.
     
  20. Tom Bombadillo

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    So he should shoot more threes...
    :grin:
     

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