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Unpatriotic?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Dec 16, 2003.

  1. Woofer

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    I'm being sarcastic. Whoever buys Card's argument can't pick and choose to whom the argument applies.
     
  2. giddyup

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    Did you even read the Card article? Card's criticism is reserved for the media and Democratic candidates. Show me otherwise or please stop distorting his message.
     
  3. Woofer

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    If it only applies to people *Card* wants to impugn, it's not a logical argument, it's a long winded rationale for arbitrary ad hominem attacks.
     
  4. giddyup

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    It's a criticism of specific behavior under certain circumstances. If you are right, why did he specify and not "let her fly" as a shotgun damnation?
     
  5. basso

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    just caught this story on opinionjournal. i wonder, does Susan Block's behaivor qualify as unpatriotic in the left's eyes?
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    "Back in April, the Boston Globe reports, a "sex therapist" called Susan Block, wrote a lurid pro-Saddam essay in which she likened the liberation of Iraq to rape:

    "The supreme victory for the rapist is proof that his victim "enjoyed" it. Though he may force his way into her property, demolish her home, murder her loved ones, pillage her belongings, though he may terrify and humiliate her, beat and batter her, break her bones and tear her flesh, spill her blood, wound her organs and lay waste to her very soul, if, in the midst of the rape, between tears and shrieks of agony, if his victim should, for a moment, for some reason, any reason, if she should smile, or, better yet, orgasm [sic], the rapist is redeemed; he is even (in his mind) heroic.

    This is why, when the Anglo-American rape of Iraq began, we so desperately searched the Iraqi faces on our televisions for a smile."

    Block's imagery is particularly twisted given that Saddam Hussein's Baathist regime actually used rape as a tool of political control. But whatever, she's just another harmless left-wing nut case, right?

    Unfortunately, wrong. The Globe reports that Yeni Safak, an Islamist newspaper in Turkey, cited Block's essay in a "report" that claimed American soldiers had raped more than 4,000 Iraqi women. The rumor seems to have incited at least one terrorist attack in Istanbul:

    "Nurullah Kuncak says his father, Ilyas Kuncak, was boiling about the rumored rapes just before he killed himself delivering the huge car bomb that devasted [sic] the Turkish headquarters of HSBC bank last month, killing a dozen people and wounding scores more.

    ''Didn't you see, the American soldiers raped Iraqi women,'' Nurullah said in a recent interview. ''My father talked to me about it. ._._. Thousands of rapes are in the records. Can you imagine how many are still secret?''"

    Since Sept. 11, "Why do they hate us?" has been a stock question of the anti-American left. One reason they hate us is because of the diligent efforts of homegrown haters like Susan Block.
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    Her article certainly is against the invasion, and compares it to rape. It doesn't mention anythin that is pro-Saddam however. And if those against the Americans want to distort and lie about articles does it matter who's articles they make up lies about? If they are going to lie, the article never had to be written by anyone to begin with for people to make false claims.
     

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