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[Unofficial} Astros Wild Card Chase

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Sep 12, 2008.

  1. Storm Surge

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    Ike killed our WC chances....Astros have a virtually impossible shot at it now. If Ike never happened I am confident that we would be 2nd in the wild card standings or even first right now.
     
  2. BrooksBall

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    I don't know what to think. He was awful out of the pen the year before last then had a Cy Young type year last season as a starter followed by this season's collapse.

    Maybe he just had one special year but when he was on top of his game last season, opposing hitters were pretty amazed with his stuff. He probably won't ever be as good as least year but he should be much better than what we saw this season. He still has one of the best sinking fastballs in the game when he's got it together as well as a good change-up.

    My guess is that it has something to do with mechanics and him adjusting to pitching a whole MLB season. He also hasn't been good at making adjustments in the middle of a game. Maybe that's because he didn't have to very often last season. This is what one scout said about him right before his first start against Boston in last year's ALCS:

    Carmona's biggest improvement in 2007 was adjusting his pitching mechanics to slow his delivery and keep his weight on his back side prior to delivering his pitches. He's been able to repeat his delivery, which has helped him become a consistent starter.

    Here's a link to this scout's entire take on Carmona: http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/playoffs/2007-10-13-scouting-carmona-schilling_N.htm
     
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  3. The Cat

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    Well thank you Brian Moehler. :(
     
  4. TMac640

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    Erm.... how about those local sports teams???
     
  5. BrooksBall

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    Wow, don't be too patient there, Blum... one swing kills any chance at a rally.
     
  6. leroy

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    Oswalt back on his game today and a nice win to guarantee a winning season...something most here didn't think was possible.
     
  7. Tfor3

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    too bad they're going to miss the playoffs.

    too bad the texans are the same old same old......one or 2 key talents and everything else leaving lots to be desired--including Ws
     
  8. TMac640

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    Exactly. While I'm disappointed with how we fared against the Marlins and the Cubs (which you could argue is excusable), it's still nice to have something that most of us couldn't fathom months ago - a winning season.
     
  9. msn

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    Agreed! Gives us "hope" for next season, anyway.
     
  10. desihooper

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    I guess we're all Cubs fans this week :mad:

    Here's hoping they put it on the Mets...
     
  11. BrooksBall

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    ... and the Brewers.

    If the Astros finish 7-0, we would still need the Mets to go no better than 3-4 AND the Brewers no better than 4-2 to win the WC or force a tiebreaker.
     
  12. stobbartjohn

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    Well the Cubs took down the Mets tonight. We're now 3 games behind in the loss column and the Mets have 3 games against the Cubs left then they play 3 games against Florida. This thing is far from over, let's sweep the Reds and make things interesting
     
  13. The Cat

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    Yup. It's a longshot, but we needed to go 6-0 to close out 2005, and we did it. If the Astros can do that -- and obviously, it's a huge if -- I don't think it's at all a stretch for the Mets to go 3-3 (or worse) and the Brewers to go 4-2 (or worse).
     
  14. Grandpappy

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    Despite all the cry about the games in Milwaukee, I think getting swept by Florida really hurt our chances. I hope they can still pull off the miracle and then sweep the cubs in the NLCS. Here's to hoping for a miracle :D
     
  15. Grandpappy

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    What happens if the Astros, Mets and the Brewers are all tied at the end of the season??
     
  16. bobrek

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    I think they do some creative flipping and one team ends up only having to play one game. For example, assume Houston wins all flips and the Mets lose all flips. The Mets and Brewers would play in Milwaukee and the Astros would travel to the winner's home park. At least that's how I remember the scenario being explained in year's past.
     
  17. stobbartjohn

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    So if the Cubs and Astros both win out from here, we will at least have a tie with the Mets and that is if the Mets manage to sweep Florida, which is unlikely. Time to become die hard Cubbie fans
     
  18. Smacktle

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    If the Astros win like this again,.... well....I....uh....will have to go to some playoff games!!!

    Holy crap! The Astros just may pull it off while the Mets and Brewers blow it AGAIN!!! :eek:
     
  19. DoitDickau

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    I believe according to MLB bylaws, Bud Selig would then just declare Milwaukee the winner.
     
  20. The Cat

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    Johan Santana against Sean Marshall, with the Cubs resting Aramis Ramirez and two other starters... we're going to need a miracle tonight.

    LET'S GO CUBBIES
     

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