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Unleash Terrence Williams!!!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TheGreat, Dec 20, 2010.

  1. PeppermintCandy

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    My gut tells me the Rockets won't be keeping both Bud and Williams around in the long-term. I think Morey's been preparing to give up either one, hopefully to get a playmaking wing upgrade the team's been needing.

    Chances are the trade will take place around the deadline when Williams will be allowed to be traded. Or it might have to wait until the summer.

    But the clock's ticking on one of these guys.
     
  2. Codeo

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  3. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    Did you read my post before you answered with a one word response?
    How does defense, specifically speaking, the defense of Twill take away from the moments when the Rockets are standing around and taking either last second fade away jumpers? Go back to every loss on the season, we had lulls that the team needs a FG like no other. Defense does not cure these lulls, rather it just attempts to put the opposing team into the same lull. I'd rather have a guy who makes the shot over a guy who blocks the shot in stretches like this...
     
  4. Htown's2kFinest

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    1st. We lost most of our games more cause of our defense NOT our offense. We been actually one of the better teams this season on offense. Top 5 in PPG and top 10 in OffEff.

    2. NJ traded him primarly cause they wanted a 1st round pick for a possible trade with Denver. They've stacked up how many 1st rounders now for a Melo trade?

    3. You are clearly bias toward Budinger.
     
  5. Codeo

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    Assuming that we do need offense, you seem to be ignoring the roles of players in the offense. In these lulls you want someone that can take it to the basket and either create a shot for himself or find the open man. Twill fits this description. However, most of us cringe when we see Budinger try to do anything but shoot. It is a two way game no matter how you look at it, and Twill is the more complete player on both ends.
     
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    And will have a much bigger impact on both ends.

    Lol for some reason I think the Nets said " alright we'll trade him to you... But he's still on punishment"

    Lol kind of like, daddy saying you can't play so you go ask momma.

    Out of respect to the Nets, this could possibly be the case.... So let's ride this out... he'll be out of time-out soon
     
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    I have never seen so much pure bias permeate the board. White wing, black wing, red wing, broken wing ... I don't care as long as the Rockets fly high.

    Bud is getting blasted because he has has played below his abilities during the early season. How quickly everyone forgets he had a severe ankle injury that limited his mobility. He is getting that back, which is why his shooting has returned, his rebounding is improving and he is fronting his man better. Bud knows when and where to pass and when to shoot and therefore fits well into Adelman's system.

    Terrence Williams is more like Jermaine Taylor on offense. He may be a good passer but he is too easily tempted into taking a poor shot in relation to the shot clock. IMO the Rockets coaches are working with him in that regard. When his basketball IQ equals Bud or Shane Battier, he will play.
     
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    So the Rockets lost against Miami because of a a lull in offense and not because they let Miami go off for 37 pts in the 4th quarter? They just needed to score 43 pts in the 4th to win.

    You must be a fan of Nelson and D'Antoni.
     
  9. BasketballMind

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    I'm having a hard time with that comparison...there's a big difference between the two. Despite both of them being somewhat known for their offense and defense.

    There's a reason Williams was a lotto pick and Taylor was so late you could buy his pick.

    Drafted by the Nets on a year when they were trying to win 10 when teams like the Lakers goal is to try not lose ten. I don't think he has that type of shot selection if he was drafted by a mediocre to contending basketball team. Taylor on the other hand, drafted by Rockets... A good team, with
     
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    I'm having a hard time with that comparison...there's a big difference between the two. Despite both of them being somewhat known for their offense and defense.

    There's a reason Williams was a lotto pick and Taylor was so late you could buy-a-pick.

    Drafted by the Nets on a year when they were trying to win 10 when teams like the Lakers goal is to try not lose ten. I don't think he has that type of shot selection if he was drafted by a mediocre to contending basketball team. Taylor on the other hand, drafted by Rockets... A good team, with 2 players ahead of him and he still had a bad shot selection.

    One of the reasons we had to give up a first rounder to get Williams and for Taylor we received a wonderful 2nd rounder we'll never be able to use
     
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    Whatever the reason he isn't playing, if Rockets have more trades coming that doesn't include Williams... Quoted from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas..."as their lawyer I advise them" to start easing him into the rotation for chemistrys sake.

    It took them a while to gain chemistry at the start of the season with just a couple new faces... Now we might potentially have regular rotated guys out w/ more new guys coming in.
     
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    I don't think the Rockets will include Bud (his contract is much too small for his production making him a true Moneyball asset) or Williams in a trade. The logical asset to trade is Shane Battier. His contract is not large but large enough to make a package workable. Coupled with one of our plethora of PFs, this would be attractive to another team. Unfortunately, we probably will lose Hill or Patterson rather than Hayes or Jeffries.
     
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  13. Codeo

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    I'm not sure how you can put Jermaine Taylor and good passer in the same sentence.
     
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    You're more accurate than inaccurate in that assessment. I was really referring to Williams' passing skills -- not Taylor's -- but failed in communicating the analogy properly. The likeness is in their shooting / scoring ability coupled with both being shot happy.
     
  15. tcadriel

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    Tit tat,
    -when he's ready he will play.
    -when the time is right he will play.
    -when the Coach says he will play.

    I haven't really given Williams much tought, so I haven't missed him. According to coach he's not ready.
     
  16. robroy77

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    This is a case of the GM making a move and the coach wanting nothing to do with it! Bud is actually making it a lot easier on his coach by finding his game again. T Will will ride the pine until he does something stupid, then Coach will be begging Morey to cut/trade him. Best case scenario would be for Battier or Martin to tweak something and force Adelmans hand in playing him!
     
  17. Codeo

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    Ahh sorry after rereading I see your point. I agree for the most part. Taylor's biggest problem when driving into the lane was that he thought he could rise above two defenders for the layup, but you can't do that in the NBA if you're not a star. Hopefully Twill has the mentality that he's driving the lane to create something for someone else, yet still has the ability to draw contact and finish at the rim.
     
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    I don't know if this had been discussed yet, but judging from his Twitter feed, 'T-Will' has the maturity of about a middle schooler. Terrance tweeted this about 15 minutes ago: Link

    And this isn't the first time I've seen him tweet pictures of his body. I don't know about you guys, but I take this display of maturity level to be a very very bad sign.

    I've also seen him tweet a few times about his need to get a girlfriend.

    You're a freakin NBA player, why do you feel the need to post shirtless pictures on twitter? Is it really THAT hard for you to get a girl?
     
  19. devilsdandruff

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    Rockets are testing TWill's patience.
     
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    Imo I think it is nice that we DON'T have to play him right now. Let him continue to work on the offense and defense with the Rockets coaching staff or maybe send him to the d-league like Patterson to give him some reps. Play/showcase bud for the next month and keep developing Williams like we did with Patterson.
     

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